Yoshi-P: Flippant dismissal of player criticism is a poor look for a lead developer.

[Deveryn]

IMO, if those people actually took things seriously, they would actually make a more solid effort to have their concerns reach the team. Some people are just too wound up and want to fight anyone that disagrees with their ideology. I've been told to look at this thread and that and there's so much fighting and attacking going on. Show me all the real points of data that I might possibly change my mind on something.

There are people that actually take things seriously and give proper feedback which reaches the team.

[Raoabolic]

IMO, if those people actually took things seriously, they would actually make a more solid effort to have their concerns reach the team. Some people are just too wound up and want to fight anyone that disagrees with their ideology.

Are you getting upset at people seeing the same old song and dance from MMO devs in large companies chasing money once the IP has been established and good will garnered? Are you really calling that an "ideology"? I wish we would just go full modern WoW and be done with it, lol.

[Sebazy]

There are people that actually take things seriously and give proper feedback which reaches the team.

Could you cite your sources on this?

I've made multiple well researched, written and concise feedback posts and threads, some of which are pushing 200 likes.

None of them have ever so much as been acknowledged and certainly not acted upon to my understanding, and I'm certainly not the only one here.

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Agreed in general, the live letter format is excellent all told and ripping up the playbook isn't the way to go. The issue is that Yoshida has repeatedly shown himself to be a bit out of touch with his player base pretty much right from 2.0 when he told us we were playing Warrior wrong. IMHO the production team suffers a little from firmly believing that they know best when that's not always the case. By being a little more receptive to community sentiment pretty much all of these faux pas could have been avoided.

[Deveryn]

Could you cite your sources on this?

I've made multiple well researched, written and concise feedback posts and threads, some of which are pushing 200 likes.

None of them have ever so much as been acknowledged and certainly not acted upon to my understanding, and I'm certainly not the only one here.

source: Naoki Yoshida

You got a post with 200 likes... That might sound like a lot for the number of people that show up here, but it's a drop in the bucket of the whole playerbase. I think you need to push the thousands to properly get noticed.

Moving on...

To even call the glamour dresser a broken system is incorrect. It's one of a few storage systems in game. It wasn't intended / anticipated to be used this much. If they keep adding and adding, there will come a point where it will negatively impact play. They had to make it so you could only use this system on your own, isolated from everyone else. That should be a major clue about how one can't just keep adding on. It's not broken just because it doesn't serve your "needs". It will be broken if they push it too far.

[Katoar]

source: Naoki Yoshida

You got a post with 200 likes... That might sound like a lot for the number of people that show up here, but it's a drop in the bucket of the whole playerbase. I think you need to push the thousands to properly get noticed.

The official forum is the place where feedback given is supposed to be read by the devs whether it is liked or not.

Thread: New Hrothgar Hairstyles are really bad has 168 likes in General discussion which is the most frequently visited sub-forum and there was a reply from a Community Rep

A summary of healer issues is a 2-year-old thread that has well over 200 likes in a much smaller sub-forum: Healer Roles. Yet to be addressed by a Live Letter or even a comment from a Community Rep.

Healer complaints have not been left unaddressed because of a lack of likes

[Deveryn]

The official forum is the place where feedback given is supposed to be read by the devs whether it is liked or not.

Thread: New Hrothgar Hairstyles are really bad has 168 likes in General discussion which is the most frequently visited sub-forum and there was a reply from a Community Rep

A summary of healer issues is a 2-year-old thread that has well over 200 likes in a much smaller sub-forum: Healer Roles. Yet to be addressed by a Live Letter or even a comment from a Community Rep.

Healer complaints have not been left unaddressed because of a lack of likes

It's easier to translate and relay something like a hairstyle issue.

When you're talking about jobs, people actually need to get their shit together and in a way that the devs can read and understand. It's been said again and again that putting together clear concise info in Japanese is the best way to communicate to them. You're expecting the community rep to do all the translating. I know I wouldn't want to touch that and having something lost in translation. On top of that, there's so much extra garbage to sift through in those threads, with all the belligerent folk fiercely clinging to the past.

This is where you need the numbers supporting an issue. 200 healers being unhappy with the game is not enough to change everything for all the thousands upon thousands that might actually be happy with the job. Healers and their concerns were definitely addressed prior to EW launch. That may not be what this small group wanted, but it was clear they were listening to feedback and the content has definitely been giving healers more to do.

I tried to read through that healer post (probably not the first time). It's all over the damn place and too much at once. It's incorrect to call it a summary.

[Nizzi]

This is where you need the numbers supporting an issue. 200 healers being unhappy with the game is not enough to change everything for all the thousands upon thousands that might actually be happy with the job. Healers and their concerns were definitely addressed prior to EW launch. That may not be what this small group wanted, but it was clear they were listening to feedback and the content has definitely been giving healers more to do.

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and your posts are embarrassing to read.

[Deveryn]

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and your posts are embarrassing to read.

Just because my name starts with Dev it doesn't mean I am concerned with your feedback, but hey you get that quick response you want while being belligerent and adding nothing to the convo. Congrats!

[Katoar]

On top of that, there's so much extra garbage to sift through in those threads, with all the belligerent folk fiercely clinging to the past.

Threads in General are filled with more of that yet they get a response.

The return of Kaiten is not too hard to translate. Has anyone responded to this: Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

What's the excuse this time?

[Deveryn]

Threads in General are filled with more of that yet they get a response.

The return of Kaiten is not too hard to translate. Has anyone responded to this: Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

What's the excuse this time?

I apparently know nothing, so figure out the reason on your own.

I've said plenty and more on feedback and all. At the end of the day, I'm not the one fussing, struggling and crying over changes I can't seem to get, so I'll be over here enjoying the game in relative peace.