This is your regular reminder that apartments are a thing.

[Issaella]

This comes up often and yet no matter how much we try to explain what it's like to grow them, people still complain about the price.

So out of curiosity, what do you expect the process to grow Thavnairian Onions is, and how much do you think the out of pocket costs will be to do it if you try to shortcut some of the steps?

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As someone who's grown the onions for personal/FC use on occasion in the past, I highly recommend just buying them off the MB. They're really not worth growing unless you're going to do it long term for profit. It doesn't that take long to earn the gil and you don't need them that frequently unless you're going out of your way to hard grind your chocobo XP.

^This. You can make more gil for the same amount of time and less effort/monitoring growing Voidrake/Lavendar and selling the expensive mats you can trade for compared to onions. Someone in a similar thread posted break down a few days ago and if you watch the mat prices (people are buying these mats to make housing items and they will need a lot of them come the 10th) and trade in for the most expensive ones on the MB the amount of gil is 2-2.5x what you could sell the onions for. Both those can be grown even in pots, no x-breeding required.

What FCs that can't get a house?

Mimilu is making a disingenuous argument. What they really mean is what about the FCs who can't get a med or large. But even that I have doubts since on most servers there are meds available in FC area even now. If your FC hasn't gotten a house at this point it because you refuse to settle for a small (3.5 mil, with a partial refund even if you upgrade later) or you haven't hit the 30 day FC timer yet. There is literally no other reason when you can bid on 100s of small plots in Empy or dozens that have been vacated and left empty in the other wards.

I have a small personal on my main and an apt on my alt on Balmung. I actually like my apt a lot and was able to do a lot with it, because of all the stuff I learned how to do furnishing my house on my main. You can do a lot in an apartment with lofts these days. That said, I would really like to see them increase the item limit by 20-30 items. I'm happy with it, but I would like more clutter/fluff items to place. If SE were to increase the item limit I wouldn't even bother with trying to do Housing Ult (bidding on a plot on Balmung) on my alt.