Hildibrand for relic? Really?

[KizuyaKatogami]

I agree they should be balanced, and considering Shadowbringers skipped out on funny entirely and there wasn't any Hildibrand content for several years it makes sense for the pendulum to swing back the other way.

ShB had "cute" flying pigs as the solution to tempering. It had matoya's relict,dwarves,beast tribes, il mheg playground, scion anime moment, graha worship moments, etc etc.

[Mimilu]

I honestly don't know how I feel about the Hildibrand/Relic connection but I'm kind of sick of seeing Gerolt (and probably Rowena) being connected to the relics again. :B

[IkaraGreydancer]

ShB had "cute" flying pigs as the solution to tempering. It had matoya's relict,dwarves,beast tribes, il mheg playground, scion anime moment, graha worship moments, etc etc.

Anime moments...yeah because dead people showing up to aid the heroes in HW isn't anime at all. Us escaping the Prae blast at the skin of our teeth isn't anime at all. Har Har villians that monologe in ARR and HW isn't anime at all. The church ultimately being "secretly" bad isnt anime at all. The heros being split after Ul dah yet somehow coming back together due to happen stance isnt anime at all. I could go on and on. ARR thru SB weren't these Uber dark n gritty expacs folks claim imo. It seems death counts and the absence of light hearted anything equates to better writing to some. Its almost like a fetish at this point or something.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

They need to try new things

-Tries New Things-

No Stop!

[TsuchinokoPanda]

Yeowch, I'm in the minority here. I adore the Hildi quests, they were actually one of the main reasons I picked up the game in the first place (saw a streamer doing the HW ones and laughed my ass off, stopped watching as I wanted to experience the rest myself). This overall seems like less of a pain than the previous two relic grinds? For now at least, gonna need more info. I never finished Eureka and I made it through Bozja by the power of my FC mates scraping my meteorite charred corpse through the grind (I wanted to see the story for Hrothgar lore, but knew my brain was too smooth to remember all mechanics for every fight). Slapstick comedy isn't everyone's thing and I get that, but I'd personally rather weather cutscenes and the queue for one trial than attempt to get competent groups for the required raid series for my relic grind unlock.

Also, look on the bright side: more people queueing for Kugane Ohashi means more chances at winning the Yojimbo Barding, eh? ehh?

[ballprince]

Ahhhhh..... this is probably one of my favourite things from the live letter. Both seeing people cry about being "forced" to do side content, and just knowing some of my favourite content in the game are coming together (Hildibrand and Relics.)

I'll be the first to say some of the HW and Eureka relic weapons we're huge pains in the asses. I for one am glad to see them doing something new with the relics (Obviously we don't know much, but it seems a little different this time around.)

I still expect grinding in later steps, yeah, but *sinking tons of hours into steps like the fate grinding in Heavensward with nothing else BUT that was kind of.... how do I put it..... boring. I don't mind the grind if it's got some flavour in it.

I really am curious why people think they are "forced" to do any content. Nobody is forcing you to watch cutscenes, to even do this content. Yes, Relics are fun, but if you're going to whine the entire time about the process to get it, what's the point? It'll be bis, maybe for a few months before crafted/raid gear overtakes it again.

It's to be expected imo that people won't like it, as is their right, but this is still a video game...... You get to choose what content you interact with.

And hell, I'm gonna be enjoying 6.2 a LOT.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Also, look on the bright side: more people queueing for Kugane Ohashi means more chances at winning the Yojimbo Barding, eh? ehh?

Ugh. I've lost it on a 98 four times now.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Anime moments...yeah because dead people showing up to aid the heroes in HW isn't anime at all. Us escaping the Prae blast at the skin of our teeth isn't anime at all. Har Har villians that monologe in ARR and HW isn't anime at all. The church ultimately being "secretly" bad isnt anime at all. The heros being split after Ul dah yet somehow coming back together due to happen stance isnt anime at all. I could go on and on. ARR thru SB weren't these Uber dark n gritty expacs folks claim imo. It seems death counts and the absence of light hearted anything equates to better writing to some. Its almost like a fetish at this point or something.

I didnt say there werent "anime moments" but they were indeed darker themed, the main cast had consequences and didnt get everything handed to them so there was a proper balance between light hearted and darker and meaningful. Whereas now its heavily skewed towards fluff light hearted moments and the main cast always getting what they want with 0 consequences. But sure, denounce it as a fetish if thats what helps you understand these things. ?Yet you claim to not argue in bad faith in other threads lmao please.

Either way i would rather actually get a canon story that contributes to the world building and lore of the game rather than a series of comedy non-canon side quests that contribute very little to the story but....seeing as how fanserive and cute adorable moments gets everyone screaming and crying i guess thats the crowd theyre catering to now.

[XiRon]

A problem with this gonna be lore inconsistency lmao.
Gunblades were invented by hrothgar X Many Eons Ago, guns as in mch were invented by Garleans, reapery is an ilsabardian craft made by the losers who cant manipulate aether like races with actual souls, Scholasticism is a lost Nymian art, Summoning is straight up nonexistent beyond our job stone so how is the Manderville family in posssession of such armaments?
Unless it is all a joke and the weapons are just "old thing we have the WoL might find useful" which could very well be the case, but in such a case I hope we get Godbert or his wife's hammer/pan as a War weapon.

[TheMightyMollusk]

A problem with this gonna be lore inconsistency lmao.
Gunblades were invented by hrothgar X Many Eons Ago, guns as in mch were invented by Garleans, reapery is an ilsabardian craft made by the losers who cant manipulate aether like races with actual souls, Scholasticism is a lost Nymian art, Summoning is straight up nonexistent beyond our job stone so how is the Manderville family in posssession of such armaments?

We have all of our weapons available on the First, where several of those nations and disciplines never existed at all.