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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Yoshi-P: Flippant dismissal of player criticism is a poor look for a lead developer.

    Y "Glam dresser capacity is increased to 800, we did it!"
    M "Thank you server team"
    Y "Social media was discussing this a lot"
    Y "But I know you guys... you guys will complain in 3 months "this is not enouuugh""
    It is this exact dismissive attitude that many players are starting to take umbrage with.

    Healer criticism? Go play Ultimate (despite the Ultimates being able to be solo healed)

    Glamour Criticism? Instead of fixing a broken system, we just simply made it bigger.
    Take what we give you and like it.

    I get it. You're stuck with the resources you have and the engine you're working with, but flippantly dismissing player criticisms over a system they find subpar is simply a bad look.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 07-01-2022 at 10:22 PM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    I mean it could have been more jokingly... Bad if it was facetious, but I could see where it was just meant "we're excited to announce this thing we did that was hard!! WOOOo--.. well I know you will want more soon lol.".

    I don't think it was meant to be disrespectful to player desires, if it was then that's sad- but I don't think that was the intention.

    Though I do hope he realizes many expect multi-thousand / majority of items in the game slots given they've had real world experience with multi-thousand slot glamour systems (like WoW or GW2's).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 07-01-2022 at 10:39 PM.

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    It's a simple statement of fact. Nature abhors a vacuum. You are absolutely going to fill all those slots and you will require more.
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    Are the devs not allowed to joke?
    You're being a bit overly sensitive tbh, and he's not wrong either.

    They're well aware of the Glam issues they're not just adding extra and not more out of spite or anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    It's a simple statement of fact. Nature abhors a vacuum. You are absolutely going to fill all those slots and you will require more.
    It's also just a blunt translation from Japanese.
    It's rly sad that they apparently have to walk on egg shells constantly because someone will take a harmless comment and get mad about it.
    Yoshida isn't mocking people and being an asshole he's just trying to be light-hearted and joke a bit.
    Not everything needs to be taken in the most bad faith literal way imaginable all the time..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I mean it could have been more jokingly... Bad if it was facetious, but I could see where it was just meant "we're excited to announce this thing we did that was hard!! WOOOo--.. well I know you will want more soon lol.".

    Though I do hope he realizes many expect multi-thousand / majority of items in the game slots given they've had real world experience with multi-thousand slot glamour systems (like WoW or GW2's).
    When there's 3000+ gear items limiting the Glamour Dresser to 400 / 800 is a bit silly. I know why they do it, it's to reduce server load because the game for some reason has to account for that glamour dresser everywhere you go but if that's the case limit the functionality to only apply Glamours at Inn rooms. Don't let it be world wide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    It's a simple statement of fact. Nature abhors a vacuum. You are absolutely going to fill all those slots and you will require more.
    I'm just going to have more retainers space that I've had to use to store the excess glamour items.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Are the devs not allowed to joke?
    You're being a bit overly sensitive tbh, and he's not wrong either.
    Not saying they're allowed to joke or not, but there's joking and then being passive aggressive to stem future criticism.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 07-01-2022 at 10:27 PM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    KaitoAsaha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    It's a simple statement of fact. Nature abhors a vacuum. You are absolutely going to fill all those slots and you will require more.
    I would have plenty of slots left over if they simply updated the armoire to hold more of the AF stuff. No, buying them again from npcs will not suffice, nor will doing obsolete hunt trains. Just let us store AF stuff in the armoire. Because repurchases do not list the dyeable unlocks. Or you know... I implement a superior glamour system. It's almost bewildering how DCUO even has a superior glamour system to XIV.

    But yeah.. if that's all that's being done for the foreseeable future then yeah.. that'll get filled up eventually. But 800 is a neat start.
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    Should include the next line too.

    "I guess the only thing left to add is the ability to remove items you don't use." or something along those lines.

    It's just a joke, but it is a weird one if they're aware the glamour system is kinda bad in it's current state. Nothing to get upset over or anything, but just an odd thing to joke about.
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    As much of an issue I have with the work being done in FF, I do believe they are working on good faith. That is, given the situation, this is what they believe is best.

    I can't wait for the reasoning behind job changes, though, since we can have more directed criticism, and it helps people decide clearly what they like and dislike about the direction of things.
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    They're doubling the capacity it's pretty neat. It is enough doubt it will ever be given the amount of content in this game. Personally i'd love to see a shared glamour bank for my main and alts but that's a dream that will most likely never happen in this game.
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    Seems like they know the system isn't great and that this is essentially just sticking a plaster on it. I think it looks pretty good that they can acknowledge and joke about their own shortcomings.
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