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  1. #101
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    Fable_Frost's Avatar
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    Blaise Embraxia
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    Sophia
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I have very mixed feelings. I think it looks pretty good but I also don't think it really fits the setting. I probably would not have bothered investing in the game if, back in the days of ARR and HW, everyone was running around in modern day style streetwear. We've long since passed the point of no return, though.

    It's also just one of many reasons as to why the game world does not feel very immersive to me. Though I was pleased to see that some of the upcoming MMO's are implementing season cycles to influence the world itself. I'll happily take that sort of thing over modern day clothing and burger joints.

    9000 posts and decked out in full modern clothing as you make this post, I'd say you're still decently invested XD
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    Last edited by Fable_Frost; 07-01-2022 at 02:41 PM.

  2. #102
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    And it's ok for SE to continue treating them like limited races? It is mind-boggling to me that they wouldn't take the time to make headgear work for them, especially since they are trying to sell it. To me it just shows how little SE cares about their players when they don't bother making the headgear work for 2 races and make it barely work for a third. All about the profits over the experience of the players unfortunately.
    Yes, they were designed that way from the start. It was stated prior to their release that they weren't getting hats, rather headgear wouldn't be shown on them due to their "unique head shapes". Yoshida relented on all headgear, when some devs worked on it in their "free time", so minor headgear such as circlets, crowns, glasses, etc. are available, but they still do not get hats, and this has been made very clear, many, many times. If we were talking about hairstyles, specifically racial unique, there then can be cause for discussion, as there was a statement made soon after ShB, if I recall, that they would get these hairstyles.

    Any viera or hrothgar player who still chooses to play the race, despite it being well known that not all headgear is displayed, is a choice they made themselves. That being said, there is an argument that can be made that it isn't made known well enough in-game. Miqo'te not having their ears shown is.. unfortunate. They should do ears for premium outfits, for sure, for miqo'te.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 07-01-2022 at 02:00 PM.
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  3. #103
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    Amenara's Avatar
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yes, they were designed that way from the start. It was stated prior to their release that they weren't getting hats, rather headgear wouldn't be shown on them due to their 'unique head shapes'. Yoshida relented on all headgear, when some devs worked on it in their 'free time', so minor headgear such as circlets, crowns, glasses, etc. are available, but they still do not get hats, and this has been made very clear, many, many times. If we were talking about hairstyles, specifically racial unique, there there can be cause for discussion, as there was a statement made soon after ShB, if I recall, that they would get these hairstyles.

    Any viera or hrothgar player who still chooses to play the race, despite it being well known that not all headgear is displayed, is a choice they made themselves. That being said, there is an argument that can be made that it isn't made known well enough in-game. Miqo'te not having their ears shown is.. unfortunate. They should do ears for premium outfits, for sure, for miqo'te.
    I just completely disagree with you and the defense that "they said 3 years ago they weren't gonna have hats" and that people are saying the dev team is doing the right thing and players who want to play Viera and Hrothgar should suffer for it. It's an even more pathetic of an excuse when you see what modders do days after a patch release with headgear for the races. It's even more sad when Yoshida said devs used their off time to make a few headgears for Hrothgar and Viera when they first came out.

    To me the whole "We aren't going to spend Dev resources fixing 2 of our races" is bullshit and needs to stop. It's the same as housing, stop blaming and punishing players and focus anger at SE for doing a bad job and get them to fix it.
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  4. #104
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
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    Them not getting hats is how it was possible for them to be made and look the way they do in the first place. If people would prefer, they could have just not done the races altogether. It was stated by Yoshida, if I recall correctly, this was their "last chance" to add races. Prior to launch players of both female viera and male hrothgar said that they were fine not getting headgear, even PRIOR to the news that minor headgear was being made available, because of a few dedicated devs. This was originally a good intention. Now, we are seeing a lot of animosity from many over something that was never supposed to be in the first place! Again, if we were talking about hair, then we can have a conversation. People waited years for something that we thought was promised, but we aren't talking about that.

    No player is being punished for anything. They chose to play these races, despite it being well known they don't get headgear. Again, that is a personal decision by those players. Again, there is also a disclaimer in the shop, so any of these players choosing to purchase the outfit regardless, is another personal decision. On the matter of mods, I am pretty sure SE could take down quite a few of them, if they so choose. Especially the ones who have this PRODUCT up, by the way.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 07-01-2022 at 02:31 PM.
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  5. #105
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Them not getting hats is how it was possible for them to be made and look the way they do in the first place. If people would prefer, they could have just not done the races altogether. It was stated by Yoshida, if I recall correctly, this was their "last chance" to add races. Prior to launch players of both female viera and male hrothgar said that they were fine not getting headgear, even PRIOR to the news that minor headgear was being made available, because of a few dedicated devs. This was originally a good intention. Now, we are seeing a lot of animosity from many over something that was never supposed to be in the first place! Again, if we were talking about hair, then we can have a conversation. People waited years for something that we thought was promised, but we aren't talking about that.

    No player is being punished for anything. They chose to play these races, despite it being well known they don't get headgear. Again, that is a personal decision by those players. Again, there is also a disclaimer in the shop, so any of these players choosing to purchase the outfit regardless, is another personal decision. On the matter of mods, I am pretty sure SE could take down quite a few of them, if they so choose. Especially the ones who have this PRODUCT up, by the way.
    "Last chance" to add races as they add in Male Viera and Female Hrothgar (someday). The point I make with that is that SE says a lot of things and goes to show that they can do it if they allocate resources to it. I can understand SE not going back to every previous piece of headgear and making it work because of the time needed for that, but I don't understand why they never bothered making all the headgear from that point on work for Viera and Hrothgar. It is just so random which pieces they decide to make work for them and which don't. If you are going to bother making like the Reaper headgear work for Viera why not make the rest of them work as well?

    As for punishing players, if you play a Viera or Hrothgar or want to play them, you are choosing an objectively worse race than any of the others. I don't understand why the ones in charge don't dedicate resources to fix the issues with the races, as you said hairstyles being one definitely (didn't they say Male Viera wouldn't have the same issues as Female?), but also why they don't make follow on headgear work on all races.
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  6. #106
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    Bringer-of-Omens's Avatar
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    Sidonie Chastevixen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    I really just want the gloves with the finger nails and one piece of glam aint worth 22 usd lmao I hope its in the next sale.
    Euro and US Dollar currently trade at almost 1:1. Wonder why the cost differential between Europe (17.50) and US (22.00)? Any insight?
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  7. #107
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I think its lame and immersion breaking but I can see why people like it.
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  8. #108
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bringer-of-Omens View Post
    Euro and US Dollar currently trade at almost 1:1. Wonder why the cost differential between Europe (17.50) and US (22.00)? Any insight?
    Most large businesses hedge forex. They sign a contract at the start of the year (or whatever period) to buy a currency for a set amount. Sometimes they end up losing money on it, sometimes they make money, however they have the benefit of no sudden surprises when a currency drops through the floor.

    US$22.00 is 2986 円
    €17,50 is 2486 円
    £15.00 is 2476 円

    Price in Japan is 2,420 円

    When they renegotiate the hedge you sometimes see the prices change, but it usually it just means things are pretty steady and won't flip around day to day.

    Imagine the mess if we could buy the outfit at €17,50 one day, but the following day it was €17,80. Can you imagine the forum salt? Or worse, you bought it at €17,80 and the next day it was €17,10?
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  9. #109
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    Shiro Lialeth
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I like it, but it's annoying that Miqo'te ears won't show and Hrothgars and Vieras can't even wear the hat. The shoes aren't my favorite either.
    It's a bit overpriced, even if it's unisex and has two clothing options.
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    Warrior of Light and professional nodder

  10. #110
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    Deidrea Shadowbane
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    Twintania
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Far too modern. The set looks like it's fresh out of real life and doesn't fit the game like so many other sets for my taste. I wish SE would come around and do more glamor like the happiness set, they were in the right direction at least for a second.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

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