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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeRoon View Post
    You, my friend have hit the nail on the head of the issue that has plagued this player base from the very beginning.

    It still breaks down to this, which we disscussed 13928091832098123 times. There are those players that loved the OLD HARDCORE version of FFXI and all the fond memories of that time they had, thus they want to make this game just as tedious.....

    Old schoolers vs new schoolers.

    the differnce is that new schoolers are willing to co-exist, old-schoolers are not.
    Jake, you've been gone a while right? Let me bring you back up to speed as of today. People cannot find others to group with to actually take part and experience the game through levels 1~50. Do you know why this is? Everyone else has abused powerleveling to the point that not many remain without 50's across the board in DoW/DoM.

    If you don't want to play a game, then don't play. If you would rather someone PL all your classes, then just pay someone to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    You're severely confused if you think the act of being powerleveled is enjoyable.
    I don't care what you think I am for enjoying playing a game in way you don't enjoy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    You're absolutely right I want people to stop doing it
    Sorry, I don't want to stop playing the game the way I enjoy playing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    People cannot find others to group with to actually take part and experience the game through levels 1~50.
    Ok, and?

    That is supposed to convince players like me to STOP playing the game the way WE enjoy it and instead play the game the way THOSE players enjoy playing it?

    If THOSE players don't want to play the game the way WE enjoy playing it, WHY should WE want to play the game the way THEY enjoy playing it?
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    Last edited by Crica; 03-21-2012 at 03:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Jinko, I don't want to re level levels that I already leveled, it's a terrible game design that I will never do. Why do I wanna be level 45 and pt with level 20s? I will never do that again, it didn't work in ffxi it will not work in here.


    I think you made that last level sync thread, anyways, it still died. Leave it at that.
    Level Sync is coming with ver 2.0 If you don't want to use it thats ok, but there is a large amount of people who would use it to play with friends, and low level/new players who would welcome the added player pool to party up with.

    Just because you or other people don't want to use the system doesn't mean it shouldn't be an option for the people that do.

    Will you change your mind when the take away the ability to power level in it's current form? I can guarantee it'll be changing with ver 2.0.

    When they introduce new classes and you can't PL, remember what you said about level sync. Then rethink your stance.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    So over the past few days me and an LS friend have been taking turns to power-level our classes to 33, at which point the XP started to taper off and it became obvious we would need to find an XP party.

    So anyways today we have been desperately trying to find an XP party but with no luck.

    Do the devs even release that there is such a big issue with trying to level low level classes ? I feel really bad for anyone who has just started this game.

    There has been several huge threads about Level Sync and LFP icons in the past and all the good stuff that 11 had but it seems like its just falling on deaf ears at this point.

    Can a Community dev please get some feedback from the devs to see if its possible to have these features added to 1.22.

    I want to get all my classes to 50 but at this rate its not going to happen.
    Just do away with Pl'ing and add more people to the game by making it enjoyable to play. Problem solved. I don't really think level synching is needed until the level cap is much higher. The biggest hurdle they have is a low population, and this is brought on by the games lack of fun. Finding parties at lower leves wouldnt really be a problem if everyone in the game wasn't already level 50 in every job. I very much prefered the PL system from XI, where you could give SOME help but you couldnt do all the work for them, but I am sure that will go over like a lead balloon with this community, since bringing up XI in any capacity is a death sentence to your point of view. Certainly once the game has been out for some time and new subscriptions begin the downward trend, synching would be a more viable option.

    See what I did there though? I responded to your post with actual thoughts and ideas, along with input, instead of just saying:

    Nope not needed.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    Jake, you've been gone a while right?.
    uhh no, my SHOW was gone a while as I leveled my avatar to level 50 and did a bunch of in game stuff that I wanted to accomplish ^^. I also follow the intricacies of this game with zeal, as we used to do a podcast about (4 hours long every week). So yeah I get what you are saying.

    but what you don't get is some ppl PREFER to be PL'd, and that's their idea of fun then fine, let them do it, who cares? I do not feel it cheapens my accomplishments because "I" know how I did them, and "I" know I had fun the way I did it.

    Which btw was by finding groups and taking part in experiencing the game in a fun manner.

    Regardless, yes population has dropped so finding parties is harder, so a Level sync would help greatly, no?

    I still have many jobs to level to 50 some are less than level 1. I am saving them to play with new players when 2.0 comes out

    So if you want to level some time look me up ! There are ppl out there who want to do it legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    going to post this here.

    battle environments section
    hey bro, is there an ETA on this or not much info yet? Thanks in advance.
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  8. #38
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    Oh no, please not this... Level sync sounds great in theory, but is awful in practice.

    Exp party play needs something to make it popular but this is NOT the solution, the few parties I get I dont want to have to go fight the same damn colibris in the same damn area every time i want to join a exp pt, no matter what level I am.

    Downplaying PLing somewhat would be a much better way of trying to get exp PTs rolling.
    Also at the moment exp PTs are just slightly better then soloing leves for exp/h (calculating in the time it takes to form pt, ppl afk, dying etc), its barely worht the bother to form a PT when soloing fast exp is soo easy and available.

    Another thing is that exping in a XIV party is just so mindnumbly dull, everyones a tank, roaming around killing anything in level range left and right, theres no real group play involved, just mindless slaughter.
    No skill needed, just spam abilites, stoneskin/heal every so often and AoE at will.

    Compare to XIs exp parties when every fight was like fighting a mini boss, you had to manage hate, healing, combos and synergy between party members, exploiting weaknesses etc.
    It was teamplay that was both fun and rewarding, you actualy played togheter with the others in a party, now exp PTing in XIV feels just like soloing alongside 7 other people who just happens to share the exp for anything killed.

    The exp and leveling system just needs a complete overhaul, however now is probably not the time for that though.
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    My issue with this is that Level Sync and Power Levelling cannot co-exist, at least in the way that Power Levelling exists now.

    As has been noted further up thread, Power levelling drops off in mid-late 30s as mobs become to difficult to effectively chain. If level sync were implemented then this would no longer be an issue. People would just find a few people in their 20s to sync to and then be PL'd up to 50 just cycling through lowbies.

    It is hypocritical of me to say so, considering I had several classes PL'd to the high 30s (as did most people posting, I imagine), but Power Levelling is hurting this game at the moment. It's not a huge issue to SE at the moment, I guess, as we are currently in a sort of twilight zone until 2.0 re-release, but I would like to see controls put in to curtail PL before we adopt level sync.

    Tl;dr - Fully in support of level sync, but not while PL'ing is still an option as it would be abused like astral burns in XI, but worse.
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    ABOLISH PL / ADD LEVEL SYNC!

    only thing that needs to change to make PL go away is the how the "open" claim system operates. If it's purple you can't attack it. If it's not red to you you don't get EXP.

    no more high levels rounding up mobs dropping PT and AOE them down.

    I bet this is how Ver 2.0 will operate

    Make it happen now SE!
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    Last edited by ChiefCurrahee; 03-21-2012 at 09:05 PM.

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