Turn Housing Demolition on

[Krotoan]

What is house demolition?

I'm just curious because i assumed people lose their houses and they go back on the market if people do not log in and enter their house for a set period of time.

Exactly that.

There is a timer that triggers if you do not enter your house (as in actually go in the door) for a long period of time. It gives you warnings (ingame and email) after about 35 days and then if you STILL do not enter your house at 45 days, all your stuff that is possible to be removed is "stored" with a NPC in the housing district (everything else is destroyed) and your lot goes back up for sale. I also believe you are refunded a fraction of the houses Gil cost from the same NPC. The recovery of your items has a expiry date as well, so if you lose your house and then do not retrieve the stored contents and gil, you will eventually lose that too.

It's just called demolition.

Right now though that timer has been paused.. as the thread laments... because of world issues potentially causing people to be unable to login or play games.

[Solowing]

Nah, I'm just doing it here really. It's not being petty, it's just that you were being a hypocrite in that post. Remember: kettle, pot, all that.

I'm not the sort of person who stalks anyone. If I see you around, I genuinely won't care. This was just the one time.

As for being an asshole... eh, low bar on that one. The problem isn't you admitting it.

...why am I wasting time on this?

That is a damn good question? Why did you decide to drag a entirely unrelated topic into this? Oh right because i disagree with somebody you thought you could score some social justice brownie points by trying to use a unrelated situation to discredit me. What you think i cant clearly cant see that? You wanting to bring the court of public opinion into something entirely unrelated to this topic. I posted in that thread.

What does this HOUSING thread topic have ANYTHING to do with how i view the community and my situations in it? Not a single thing. But it makes you look bad, so it makes your reasoning seem less valid. If not that, then what? What reasoning would you have for bringing that issue into a thread labeled "HOUSING DEMOLISHON"? Nothing. Does it feel good morally grandstanding for a situation over a year ago?

But ask yourself why are you wasting your time on something you yourself brought up? Are you serious right now? Are you being that disingenous? You know exactly why you did it and i expected you to. But youre wondering why this thread got derailed WHEN YOU DERAILED IT!

I expect some of you to treat this forum like Twitter, and go post history digging to throw it on unrelated threads when you dont like someone to try to discredit someone because that isnt toxic either amiright? lol That just Social Justice Crusading.

[Jojoya]

Am i an asshole? Sure!

The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

Now that's done, you have a choice to make: do you want that to define your worth and life (and how others react to you), or do you want to strive for a better outcome?

It is your choice. No one can make it for you.

But back on topic:

While it would be nice if demolition would resume, demolishing a couple of dozen houses per world is not going to provide enough houses for the thousands of players trying to obtain them. It ends up just another in a series of bandaids that cover the wound but do not heal it.

If you genuinely want a house, you should be discussing how to fix the problem instead of asking for something already added that has been proven not to work.

[hagare]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ea1af7ef0cb27b

REJOICE!

[Solowing]

I seek nothing. I'm answering your question and giving examples as to why, even if given a identical space to decorate with the same functionality as a small house, an apartment lacks things that people want and will never be possible to duplicate in an instanced format.

I don't know why you're acting like I'm advocating for or against anything.

You keep saying no brainer, no brainer, but if you brainer-ed for a bit you'd see it's not. There are things that one does that the other cannot, EVER. And unless you can show me how to change peoples actual values (believe me I've tried), there's going to be an audience for that part of it.

Lol excuse my way of typing, it tends to rub people the wrong way. Kinda shoot from the hip, i just say how i feel thats all.

If they decided to make the top floor a shared balcony where players can buy a 1 time fee patch of dirt to cross-breed their Thanavarian Onions and the like to the hearts content. I would like that.

Would i mind if they turned the Apt size into the basement size of a small? Not at all! I can suggest and get behind that with a item increase.

But giving apts 2 floors like a small? Ok thats where i draw the line, where it starts to encroach on small houses IMO.

I in part purchase 6 month subscriptions in part due to me not wanting to lose something ive spent 6 years building up and developing my own approach for trying to brainstorm character room ideas. And to have that consistent threat of taking a break for abit too long, and you can come back to nothing. As a owner of both a FC house and Pvt house, if i lose one, im likely going to lose the other.

But if i can have a permanent version of my Smalls that the only trade-off is Cross-Breeding and a 16 slot yard? You bet your sweet cheeks, im moving EVERYTHING to an Apt and i wouldn't look back. The fact i can no longer lose something that had so much time and effort put into it due to to a demolishion timer. Is IMO a benefit that far outweighs a 16 slot yard and the ability to cross-breed.



Do i feel the apts are sufficient as is? Creativity, yes.

Should they get access to Cross-breeding? Yes

Item increase: Yes

Size increase: Sure!

Floor increase? No.

[Solowing]

The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

Now that's done, you have a choice to make: do you want that to define your worth and life (and how others react to you), or do you want to strive for a better outcome?

It is your choice. No one can make it for you.

But back on topic:

While it would be nice if demolition would resume, demolishing a couple of dozen houses per world is not going to provide enough houses for the thousands of players trying to obtain them. It ends up just another in a series of bandaids that cover the wound but do not heal it.

If you genuinely want a house, you should be discussing how to fix the problem instead of asking for something already added that has been proven not to work.

To be flat out honest, my experience in person is the complete opposite, people find me easy to approach and talk to (once they get over the aggressive looking appearance). Its complete dissonance, so why should i care what a bunch of FF14 nobodies think, when it holds no weight against peoples opinion that have more a substantial and direct interaction with me? But i have no issue wearing the label if they want. (Call it rude but its thats pretty conventional wisdom)

On topic:

Personally myself, Im full on homes. I transferred off Brynildr, where i have to leave my medium. And on Excalibur nothing was available, so i settled for my Apt in hopes that id get lucky and get a house

And i had this Apt for a year or so, until Shirogane came out, once i logged into Shiro and saw wasn't much hope if i stuck around, i bailed on it and went to the Mist instead. And i found a open plot there and purchased it. Eventually of course i found a open house in the Lavender Beds, i purchased as an FC home, but i wasn't a fan of the location...But one day, heading back to my house i noticed the house next door to my private was demolished, so i moved my FC house there.


I got my house in the (mostly) same system you did. I was patient and i waited until something freed up. I didnt click a placard for 12 hours. if nothing was open, id leave n check back later. I didnt realize the sheer extreme lengths people went to get a house until i started looking at the housing forum section.

Its hard for me to see a flaw with the system when its very clear that housing is a limited resource and apts were what i could get if i couldn't get a house and i simply worked around the Apts limitations to make something i was happy within the space i had to work with, until i could get another house. Should you be able to cross-breed stuff? Add in a shared balcony on the room of the Apt and let players plant stuff up there. Item limit increase? Yes. Giving apts space of a small basement? Yes. Making apt 2 floor like a house? No.

[localareanetwork]

Auto Demolition should definitely be resumed by now. When I read that it was happening in the first place I thought it was a joke

[Jojoya]

Auto Demolition should definitely be resumed by now. When I read that it was happening in the first place I thought it was a joke

Auto demolition resumes. Players who were taking advantage of it log back into game and reset their demolition timers.

After 6 weeks, 15 houses appear all at once in the lottery with 7 of them in FC wards that still haven't filled up.

Your entry number 145 on one of those remaining 8 houses loses to entry number 107. Now all the available houses are gone again.

What next?

Resuming auto demolition is going to have a negligible effect on the supply problem. Wouldn't it be better for SE to fix the supply so we don't really care whether demolition is active (assuming it would even be needed anymore?)/

[localareanetwork]

Auto demolition resumes. Players who were taking advantage of it log back into game and reset their demolition timers.

After 6 weeks, 15 houses appear all at once in the lottery with 7 of them in FC wards that still haven't filled up.

Your entry number 145 on one of those remaining 8 houses loses to entry number 107. Now all the available houses are gone again.

What next?

Resuming auto demolition is going to have a negligible effect on the supply problem. Wouldn't it be better for SE to fix the supply so we don't really care whether demolition is active (assuming it would even be needed anymore?)/

Well it's still better than nothing, right? If people are resubbing to FFXIV I don't see how that's bad for Square Enix.

[Avoidy]

At this point, Square should either commit to addressing the supply issue with more wards planned on a concrete date in the future, or just commit fully to the status quo and turn on demolition again.

I hate demolition. I think it's stupid and nonsensical. But it's the only mitigating factor this current system has. Right now Square is half-implementing a housing system that relies on a revolving door effect that isn't happening because homes owned by inactive accounts aren't being relinquished. So either fix the gridlock by introducing more wards, or stop half assing your current system and just bring back demolition and cut down on this fc-only nonsense so your current system can begin to function even a little bit. There'll still be gridlock and shortages (which is why increasing the supply with more wards is a better solution) but it'll be better than nothing if this is really all we can get. For me, adding more wards is infinitely preferable.

That being said, I'm genuinely curious why they've been able to add new wards before, but now people want to act like it's an impossibility when it's brought up. I sure hope in their next live letter, the 2 billion dollar company talks about this so random fanboys can stop speaking on their behalf about their technical limitations.