"I don't want to think while I play, so no one should be allowed to."

[Rolder50]

wanting the healer to have a DPS rotation similar to a samurai's is NOT complexity, it's bloat for the sack of bloat. If you want more buttons to push, try weaving in more healing/buffing/debuffing on your Healer, and pepper your DPS when you can.

Bit of a strawman argument considering most healers are just asking for a couple extra dps buttons which is quite a few short of a samurai

Edit: Also the problem is there is basically nothing to heal, and buffs/debuffs are incredibly sparse, so that "try weaving in more healing/buffing/debuffing" literally does not exist.

[DPZ2]

Bit of a strawman argument considering most healers are just asking for a couple extra dps buttons which is quite a few short of a samurai

Is that really what most healers are asking for, a couple extra DPS buttons? Does that mean that Sage is perfect as a healer, since there are, um, 4 DPS buttons instead of 2?

[Nizzi]

Is that really what most healers are asking for, a couple extra DPS buttons? Does that mean that Sage is perfect as a healer, since there are, um, 4 DPS buttons instead of 2?

You mean Toxicon, which is a DPS loss or DPS neutral if using the stacks given at the start/fishing in disconnects? Or Pneuma, which is a heal that does the same amount of damage as Dosis? Yeah you've solved it, just make buttons you don't want to press but they do the same thing as your 1 button spam! SGE does not have a different DPS rotation than any of the other healers, and it's arguably the least complex in what it has to do for its DPS optimization.

[DPZ2]

You mean Toxicon, which is a DPS loss or DPS neutral

Any DPS is good DPS if you're a healer. What? You're looking to lead the boards with DPS as a healer? Hahahahaha... oh, wait. You're serious ?!?

[Nizzi]

Any DPS is good DPS if you're a healer. What? You're looking to lead the boards with DPS as a healer? Hahahahaha... oh, wait. You're serious ?!?

Do you regularly post nonsensical drivel like this?

[DPZ2]

Do you regularly post nonsensical drivel like this?

When someone, such as yourself, calls out a healer's DPS action as a "DPS loss", I certainly reply to that nonsensical drivel.

For your information, Toxicon doesn't become a DPS "loss" during an AoE, by my calculation, until you reach 15 enemy targets. So, yea, your DPS "loss" was drivel.

Toxicon: 300 for first and 150 for others: 14 * 150 + 300 = 2400 potency.
Dyskrasia: 160 for each: 15 * 160 = 2400 potency.

Plus, Toxicon has a 25 yalm range, while Dyskrasia has a 0 yalm range.

[Ivtrix]

When someone, such as yourself, calls out a healer's DPS action as a "DPS loss", I certainly reply to that nonsensical drivel.

For your information, Toxicon doesn't become a DPS "loss" during an AoE, by my calculation, until you reach 15 enemy targets. So, yea, your DPS "loss" was drivel.

whens the last time a savage raid or an ultimate had 15 target part to it? balance of content underneath those is virtually nonwithstanding, unless your going to do something exceptionally silly like spam toxicon during a dungeon boss

[Nizzi]

When someone, such as yourself, calls out a healer's DPS action as a "DPS loss", I certainly reply to that nonsensical drivel.

For your information, Toxicon doesn't become a DPS "loss" during an AoE, by my calculation, until you reach 15 enemy targets. So, yea, your DPS "loss" was drivel.

Oh cool, that's awesome, except I clearly said Dosis in my post and mentioned DPS optimization and disconnects, so one would assume if you actually read my post instead of immediately jumping to try and "own" me you would've understood that it was about single target encounters and not dungeons because I said nothing about Dyskrasia and because nobody discusses "optimal DPS" for dungeon encounters.

[Silver-Strider]

When someone, such as yourself, calls out a healer's DPS action as a "DPS loss", I certainly reply to that nonsensical drivel.

For your information, Toxicon doesn't become a DPS "loss" during an AoE, by my calculation, until you reach 15 enemy targets. So, yea, your DPS "loss" was drivel.

AoE situations are irrelevant outside of Dungeons for the most part and don't break away from the monotony of spamming 1 button for the majority of content. SGE doesn't break away from 1 button spam more than any other healer since Toxicon and Phlegma both have limitations on how often you can actually use them, which is no different to how often a SCH can hit Energy Drain or a WHM can hit Misery.

[Sebazy]

Any DPS is good DPS if you're a healer. What? You're looking to lead the boards with DPS as a healer? Hahahahaha... oh, wait. You're serious ?!?

Not when it’s a net loss vs the alternatives in your kit.

This is why the seemingly small Lily potency change for WHM was such a big deal and a positive step forward