Refugees (Spoilers)

[thegreatonemal]

A war isn't a "one and done" event. It was the only war Gridania had ever taken part in its history against another non-beastman nation up until very recently, and it was the first time another country fully invaded it and posed an existential threat. It was also the genesis of city-state cooperation in Eorzea, the first time they all came together to fight a common foe and led to where we are now and a common Eorzean identity. It was also the genesis of the Bard job, which spread patriotic stories about the war to years to come, and the Lancers' Guild, which still exists today. And for years after the war, Gridania shared a long border with a belligerent, militaristic, and unstable nation whose main export was mercenaries and then after a purge, civil war, and invasion, they exported refugees and Garlean spies.

After the war, Ishgard and Gridania even held reenactments and mock battles in celebration every year, so it's not like it's something that disappeared from the public consciousness.


My point was that Gridanians view all outsiders with suspicion. But I would imagine that with the history they have, Ala Mhigans already have more baggage than a Lominsan or an Ul'dahn in the eyes of the average Gridanian citizen.

The fact that we have a whole questline around a guy being angry about it shows that some are less OK than others. While I'm sure many Gridanians are accepting, Nourval wasn't alone, he had a whole band of people with him that hated Ala Mhigo. Though the majority probably lie in between the extremes of him and Beatin. In that questline one of the NPCs even says that Gridanians are already grumbling about Ala Mhigan liberation. The point of the story arc is to stop Nourval because he would fan the embers of mistrust specifically aimed at Ala Mhigans into a diplomatic crisis.

This one seemed to be, again you can't really point to anything aside from one guy in the bard quest who even brings it up as a potential spark point. I think you're overselling the state of Ala Mhigo after the war

Where is that in game? I haven't seen anything about that.

I see your point there is just nothing to support your point, the bard quest is one guy's personal grudge because his relative was the Gridanian General during the war and he was assassinated. He thinks letting everybody know that he was killed and instead of dying of an illness will spark negative reactions. We are asked to intervene, not because it's a serious threat but because why let a spark turn into something when we can stop it. The quest line just isn't framed like it would be a major problem, smoke without a whole lot of fire.

[MikkoAkure]

This one seemed to be, again you can't really point to anything aside from one guy in the bard quest who even brings it up as a potential spark point. I think you're overselling the state of Ala Mhigo after the war

Where is that in game? I haven't seen anything about that.

I see your point there is just nothing to support your point, the bard quest is one guy's personal grudge because his relative was the Gridanian General during the war and he was assassinated. He thinks letting everybody know that he was killed and instead of dying of an illness will spark negative reactions. We are asked to intervene, not because it's a serious threat but because why let a spark turn into something when we can stop it. The quest line just isn't framed like it would be a major problem, smoke without a whole lot of fire.

It's not just one guy. He had a group of people with him and it's described as a faction. The people on our side in the quest agreed that if it got out, it would be bad. He wasn't just some Gridanian general, he was a hero. He was invited to a peace conference and poisoned and Gridania would have lost the war after if Eorzea wasn't convinced to come together. The fact that it's treated as a big enough deal means that there's still embers of resentment that can catch fire.

And Nourval seeks to use it to stoke the fires of anti-Ala Mhigan sentiment to some sinister end. This cannot be borne─we cannot let them have the journal! Are you with me?

To this day, Lord Vainchelon remains an object of worship among many Gridanians. Were they to learn of this, the present grumblings against Ala Mhigan liberation are liable to grow into large-scale protests.

Had it been made known that their hero was struck down by treachery, ordinary Gridanians would not have been satisfied with protecting their homes. Nay, they would have demanded justice. They would have demanded blood.
The war would have raged on, leaving yet more death and destruction in its wake. And the peace that Lord Vainchelon dreamed of would have gone up in smoke. Knowing this, Lord Landrenel...

If you're asking where the reenactment thing was in the game, that's mentioned in a leve, I believe. I lot of good lore about random day-to-day things are locked in leve descriptions.