Turn Housing Demolition on

[Solowing]

A neighborhood house is permanently on display, night and day, and unblockable. You live next to that guy? You gotta see it all the time, paissa walls and everything. If you want to 'show off" your apartment.. I gotta go there, SPECIFICALLY. A good location and desirable ward number (this is a thing) it's something for others to be envious of.

You asked for why anyone would want ward housing over apartments.. I gave an example. You can pish-tosh it all you like but, as is evidenced by the amount of people who balk anytime anyone suggests they want to "turn off" other players in any way, people WANT to have publicly visible things and be able to flaunt stuff that others don't have.

If this suggestion was easy enough for somebody of 6 years daily housing usage, to say id willingly drop my ward house for a instanced 2 floored apt that would allow me to relinquish my subscription indefinitely at any period of time. I mean that fine by me, and that be fine by you. But Square will no longer see 6 month subscriptions from me, and anyone foolish enough to buy a ward house will soon realize it wasn't worth a subscription that you CANNOT lapse anymore.

Also nobody cares about what your exterior looks like, if your preference, not mine. I dont remember a single housing exterior that isnt mine.

[Krotoan]

If this suggestion was easy enough for somebody of 6 years daily housing usage, to say id willingly drop my ward house for a instanced 2 floored apt that would allow me to relinquish my subscription indefinitely at any period of time. I mean that fine by me, and that be fine by you. But Square will no longer see 6 month subscriptions from me, and anyone foolish enough to buy a ward house will soon realize it wasn't worth a subscription that you CANNOT lapse anymore.

Also nobody cares about what your exterior looks like, if your preference, not mine. I dont remember a single housing exterior that isnt mine.

Everyone is not you.. as I said. Just because you don't value things doesn't mean others feel the same. I personally don't care about my neighbors either, but I do enjoy having a "beachfront" house. It's fun to hang out on the deck I setup and gaze out at the beach. Can't do that in an apartment either. Considering I play the game constantly anyway and to be absolutely truthful 15 bucks a month isn't something I even think about stopping even if I don't manage to get online that month. So just on those points I wouldn't drop my house for an apartment anytime soon.

And yet again there is a population where visibility and envy are everything. They aren't me but they are demonstrably present and catered to.

[Solowing]

Everyone is not you.. as I said. Just because you don't value things doesn't mean others feel the same. I personally don't care about my neighbors either, but I do enjoy having a "beachfront" house. It's fun to hang out on the deck I setup and gaze out at the beach. Can't do that in an apartment either. Considering I play the game constantly anyway and to be absolutely truthful 15 bucks a month isn't something I even think about stopping even if I don't manage to get online that month. So just on those points I wouldn't drop my house for an apartment anytime soon.

And yet again there is a population where visibility and envy are everything. They aren't me but they are demonstrably present and catered to.

If you think they are going to have an apt that you can upgrade to the size of a small, yet be cheaper then a 2-6 million gil small plot, that cant demolished is going to be less enticing then a house with the only additional benefit being cross breeding, and 20 slot yard (16 if youre going to keep a chocobo stable, Aytherite, garden, mailbox), and a 45 day demolition timer?

Anyone who decided to purchase a house seeing how little difference it is, but it being millions of gil more expensive, but requiring a active subscription to hold, is giving themselves the short end of the stick from a value proposition standpoint. And youre saying people would happily shaft themselves as long as they got a ward house? That hardly anyone is ever really in, to sit in a yard that barely has any furnishing slots?

[Krotoan]

If you think they are going to have an apt that you can upgrade to the size of a small, yet be cheaper then a 2-6 million gil small plot, that cant demolished is going to be less enticing then a house with the only additional benefit being cross breeding, and 20 slot yard (16 if youre going to keep a chocobo stable, Aytherite, garden, mailbox), and a 45 day demolition timer?

Anyone who decided to purchase a house seeing how little difference it is, but it being millions of gil more expensive, but requiring a active subscription to hold, is giving themselves the short end of the stick from a value proposition standpoint. And youre saying people would happily shaft themselves as long as they got a ward house? That hardly anyone is ever really in, to sit in a yard that barely has any furnishing slots?

Yes. Because people value different things and no matter how you try to "sell" it, people will find value in what they value. And if people value the permanence of a ward along with the scenery and peacocking capability.. they will not move to an instanced apartment that has none of that.

[Solowing]

Yes. Because people value different things and no matter how you try to "sell" it, people will find value in what they value. And if people value the permanence of a ward along with the scenery and peacocking capability.. they will not move to an instanced apartment that has none of that.

So you seek to make apts better by devaluing my house? By making Apts and Smalls indistinguishable from one another, outside of 16 slots outdoor and a demo time.

Youre saying they wont move, but looking at it, its a no brainer to swap to something that isn't going to be demolished for the same size of a small.

[Krotoan]

So you seek to make apts better by devaluing my house? By making Apts and Smalls indistinguishable from one another, outside of 16 slots outdoor and a demo time.

Youre saying they wont move, but looking at it, its a no brainer to swap to something that isn't going to be demolished for the same size of a small.

I seek nothing. I'm answering your question and giving examples as to why, even if given a identical space to decorate with the same functionality as a small house, an apartment lacks things that people want and will never be possible to duplicate in an instanced format.

I don't know why you're acting like I'm advocating for or against anything.

You keep saying no brainer, no brainer, but if you brainer-ed for a bit you'd see it's not. There are things that one does that the other cannot, EVER. And unless you can show me how to change peoples actual values (believe me I've tried), there's going to be an audience for that part of it.

[Solowing]

I seek nothing. I'm answering your question and giving examples as to why, even if given a identical space to decorate with the same functionality as a small house, an apartment lacks things that people want and will never be possible to duplicate in an instanced format.

I don't know why you're acting like I'm advocating for or against anything.

You keep saying no brainer, no brainer, but if you brainer-ed for a bit you'd see it's not. There are things that one does that the other cannot, EVER. And unless you can show me how to change peoples actual values (believe me I've tried), there's going to be an audience for that part of it.

Lol excuse my way of typing, it tends to rub people the wrong way. Kinda shoot from the hip, i just say how i feel thats all.

If they decided to make the top floor a shared balcony where players can buy a 1 time fee patch of dirt to cross-breed their Thanavarian Onions and the like to the hearts content. I would like that.

Would i mind if they turned the Apt size into the basement size of a small? Not at all! I can suggest and get behind that with a item increase.

But giving apts 2 floors like a small? Ok thats where i draw the line, where it starts to encroach on small houses IMO.

I in part purchase 6 month subscriptions in part due to me not wanting to lose something ive spent 6 years building up and developing my own approach for trying to brainstorm character room ideas. And to have that consistent threat of taking a break for abit too long, and you can come back to nothing. As a owner of both a FC house and Pvt house, if i lose one, im likely going to lose the other.

But if i can have a permanent version of my Smalls that the only trade-off is Cross-Breeding and a 16 slot yard? You bet your sweet cheeks, im moving EVERYTHING to an Apt and i wouldn't look back. The fact i can no longer lose something that had so much time and effort put into it due to to a demolishion timer. Is IMO a benefit that far outweighs a 16 slot yard and the ability to cross-breed.



Do i feel the apts are sufficient as is? Creativity, yes.

Should they get access to Cross-breeding? Yes

Item increase: Yes

Size increase: Sure!

Floor increase? No.