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  1. #811
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    Lustre's Avatar
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Console support is holding the game back in almost every area. Good for inflating player numbers, bad for systems, gameplay, communication etc. I'd say it's a key component in limiting the devs from creative and interesting job design.
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  2. #812
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    LioJen's Avatar
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    Volk Virses
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    Gunbreaker Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Console support is holding the game back in almost every area. Good for inflating player numbers, bad for systems, gameplay, communication etc. I'd say it's a key component in limiting the devs from creative and interesting job design.
    Dropping console support didn't see any kind of revolution for XI. If SE ever drops consoles for XIV, it will be to put the game into maintenance mode like that one is. Console limitations is probably the devs' favorite feature of the game, since they can blame all kinds of cut corners on it.
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    "Which pet do you want, Red Sticks, Chicken Nuggets or Abomination Parrot? None, get out of here with that s***." ~Samuraiking

  3. #813
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    The game is already running well below PS4 specs, never mind PS5. Support for outdated PCs is holding the game back.
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  4. #814
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    The game is already running well below PS4 specs, never mind PS5. Support for outdated PCs is holding the game back.
    I was referring more to having to fit every job (comfortably) on a controller than I was graphical concerns. I find it hard to believe that most PC players have specs below that of either ps3s or ps4s tbh... everyone I know has 30 series cards, 16gb+ ram etc. I also dont believe any comparison can be made between a game from 01 which needed the expansion bay addon, from a time when people were still using dial up interner to xiv today, but of course people are cool to disagree. It was a hot take opinion, not a scientific thesis
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  5. #815
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Compared to the pile of hotbars I had to use on WoW, there's far less button management in XIV, so I still don't feel like that's a real problem. It just comes across as more "console bad, PC master race" rhetoric.
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  6. #816
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    I was referring more to having to fit every job (comfortably) on a controller than I was graphical concerns. I find it hard to believe that most PC players have specs below that of either ps3s or ps4s tbh... everyone I know has 30 series cards, 16gb+ ram etc. I also dont believe any comparison can be made between a game from 01 which needed the expansion bay addon, from a time when people were still using dial up interner to xiv today, but of course people are cool to disagree. It was a hot take opinion, not a scientific thesis
    You will be surprise to be honest.
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  7. #817
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Never understood why people like 20 hotbars when you run out of keybind space and then still demand more abilities that do the same thing as ones they already have, just bigger numbers.

    I like not giving myself RSI.
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  8. #818
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    I was referring more to having to fit every job (comfortably) on a controller than I was graphical concerns. I find it hard to believe that most PC players have specs below that of either ps3s or ps4s tbh... everyone I know has 30 series cards, 16gb+ ram etc. I also dont believe any comparison can be made between a game from 01 which needed the expansion bay addon, from a time when people were still using dial up interner to xiv today, but of course people are cool to disagree. It was a hot take opinion, not a scientific thesis
    I couldn't even find an affordable 3000 series or equivalent card.

    So no, not everyone does.
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  9. #819
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    Saber Maxwell
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    Faerie
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Controller players can easily fit 32 (l2, r2, l2r2, r2l2); this can be expanded to 48 (l2l2, r2r2) or even 50 (mapping macros like sprint, lb, focus target to l3 and r3). They're not holding job design back.
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  10. #820
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Never understood why people like 20 hotbars when you run out of keybind space and then still demand more abilities that do the same thing as ones they already have, just bigger numbers.

    I like not giving myself RSI.
    And yet you play healer, curious!
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