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  1. #61
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    Aqua Resonare
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    Glad someone sees it for what it is. I see so many Gladiators walking around with HP on every possible piece, and I'm thinking, what's your logic there? 100% agree.
    The problem of course, is that mobs can two hit you. Chimera (and tunnel worm) WS hit you consistently for 2000+. The difference between a dead tank and a live one is pretty significant.

    In my experience (I don't tank much, since there are better tanks in LS), is that while DEF/VIT are nice, when things really get tough, there is nothing like HP that you can fall back on.
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    Last edited by Ragz; 03-15-2012 at 11:45 PM.
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  2. #62
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    Treach O-o
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    Malboro
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    What he said, full super AF paladins with VIT rings have like 3100-3300 HP and can be one shot by chimera's ice breath move whatever it is called.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    What he said, full super AF paladins with VIT rings have like 3100-3300 HP and can be one shot by chimera's ice breath move whatever it is called.
    As far as Chimera, I haven't had the opportunity of fighting him yet, so yeah.
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  4. #64
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    Tirion Crey
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    Yeah, but honestly...this is a design problem, not an HP problem. PLD HP is just a joke, compared to the dmg the new bosses dish out.

    I changed to WAR tanking right now, cause the HP of PLD is just plain idiotic, PLD get nothing really for compensation. Healing yourself won't do much if you die on the 2nd attack(or first at that). To even be considerable as a "real" tank, PLD HP must be anywhere around 3500 unbuffed...some HP instead of MP on AF would help on that as well, otherwise I'm wearing my GLA gear on PLD for the most part...

    But yeah...WAR tanking right now is the way to go. 4.1k HP w/o HP gear and food makes a difference, sadly. With HP Gear and food I get to 4900~HP right now, making it possible to just straight tank everything.
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  5. #65
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    The real answer to this question is:

    Why are you using a GLD/PLD to tank anything anyways?

    Fully buffed (2hr songs food, etc) our WAR tank has over 6K HP.
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    Last edited by Scarface; 03-20-2012 at 10:41 PM.

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface View Post
    The real answer to this question is:

    Why are you using a GLD/PLD to tank anything anyways?

    Fully buffed (2hr songs food, etc) our WAR tank has over 6K HP.
    I don't count the Battle Voice Song buff, since you won't have it for the whole fight. with the Battle Voice buff I get anywhere around 6k as well

    But yeah, PLD tanking sucks right now...I would prefer it over WAR tanking at any time, if it would be viable, but it's not.
    I just like the "old school" sword+shield tanking thing.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    I don't count the Battle Voice Song buff, since you won't have it for the whole fight. with the Battle Voice buff I get anywhere around 6k as well

    But yeah, PLD tanking sucks right now...I would prefer it over WAR tanking at any time, if it would be viable, but it's not.
    I just like the "old school" sword+shield tanking thing.

    We usually pop brd song @ 50% when 100ton swing really starts hitting hard. Lasts a minute on the tank, and its usually dead before the song wears off.

    Most of our tanks are natural PLD lovers, loving sword and shield. Just can't hate on WAR, so much HP, debatable mitigation, way more DPS, and antagonize just owns all the PLD hate builders.
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