We really should be able to glamour other jobs' sets

[Aluja89]

I think removing the restriction is easy, since all it requires to do is change the job lock to DOW+DOM classes, but then that also opens a whole other can of problems... The idiots will wear healing gear while tanking for example.

I'm not sure how interlocked the glamour dresser is but I don't see how they can't remove restrictions once in a glam dresser, they'd probably have to redo the dresser completely from scratch where the dresser has unique item IDs that unlock a certain lookalike piece for every job once you feed it that certain piece.

[Fayt1203]

what i really dont get is that in early 1.0 none of these restrictions existed. not even level could stop you from just wearing whatever gear you wanted (even if it was a really bad idea). they had to add them in later on. what kind of 2.0 witchcraft is the glamour system?

aaa don't make me remember the gear ui from alpha testing

too late




also getting gear in 1.0 before yoshi took over was horrible.

[Lihtleita]

aaa don't make me remember the gear ui from alpha testing

too late

bring back the lingerie gear slots

[Enkidoh]

what i really dont get is that in early 1.0 none of these restrictions existed. not even level could stop you from just wearing whatever gear you wanted (even if it was a really bad idea). they had to add them in later on. what kind of 2.0 witchcraft is the glamour system?

You're confusing glamour with gear equippability, 1.0 had no glamour system at all (or even a dye system). Yes you could equip any gear on any class, usually, but if it was not a 'recommended' class or level (say, level 50 tank gear on a level 10 mage like THM), you suffered a massive stat hit as punishment, so it completely and utterly averted people wearing stuff just for looks in high end content. And towards the end of the game's life, class and level restrictions were brought in for certain gear (AF/relic and GC uniforms), so this was nowhere near as good as it seems, and ARR merely continued this.

Really, you can't have your cake and eat it too - SE is sticking to level and class restrictions on gear for glamour, and I don't see it changing.

[Flaws]

Really, you can't have your cake and eat it too - SE is sticking to level and class restrictions on gear for glamour, and I don't see it changing.

And you're saying this based on...? I don't see where the cake is to begin with, let alone eat it. Unless you're referring to being able to glamour anything at all which is just a baseline requirement for an MMORPG in today's market so its not really the case.

Things have changed dramatically since ShB due to the 4 new jobs that were introduced and they're clearly not done adding more jobs with future expansions. If they don't change it then the problem will only get worse as the years go by. More and more jobs will be put under the roles we already have and the gear for each of them will look more and more out of place, newer jobs will forever be cucked because they can't glamour gear that would actually look good on them, both old and new. Its in their best interest to do something about it and like I said in an earlier post, I don't see them making job-specific gear for every duty to retain any form of "class fantasy" as it is simply not feasible. Next best thing is to let us glam anything on anything except for AF gear.

Edit: Additionally, if they ever decided to add more roles then jobs under those new roles would even more screwed because they wouldn't have ANYTHING to put on except for whatever is given to them from the expansion they were introduced onward.

[Raikai]

And you're saying this based on...? I don't see where the cake is to begin with, let alone eat it. Unless you're referring to being able to glamour anything at all which is just a baseline requirement for an MMORPG in today's market so its not really the case.

Things have changed dramatically since ShB due to the 4 new jobs that were introduced and they're clearly not done adding more jobs with future expansions. If they don't change it then the problem will only get worse as the years go by. More and more jobs will be put under the roles we already have and the gear for each of them will look more and more out of place, newer jobs will forever be cucked because they can't glamour gear that would actually look good on them, both old and new. Its in their best interest to do something about it and like I said in an earlier post, I don't see them making job-specific gear for every duty to retain any form of "class fantasy" as it is simply not feasible. Next best thing is to let us glam anything on anything except for AF gear.

Edit: Additionally, if they ever decided to add more roles then jobs under those new roles would even more screwed because they wouldn't have ANYTHING to put on except for whatever is given to them from the expansion they were introduced onward.

Exactly this. If the restrictions are gated behind some kind of philosophy, is not like it would never change. We know the developers and YP change their minds about things with time. And technical difficulties can be resolved with time as well.

[Lihtleita]

You're confusing glamour with gear equippability, 1.0 had no glamour system at all (or even a dye system). Yes you could equip any gear on any class, usually, but if it was not a 'recommended' class or level ...

i know. most of the arguments regarding if cross glamour is possible or not seem to hinge on "if you cant equip it the system cant glamour it" so thats why i brought up that class restrictions werent always part of the game in the first place
also bring back toadskin wristguards i need them for my chun li glamour

[Deveryn]

Thats not at all what we want, not even remotely close. Its been explained countless times here that a lot of gear doesn't even fit the role it was made for because the different jobs that fall under that role category are often so dramatically different aesthetically. For example, when you're a dancer and most of what you're given is machinist/bard gear to wear as glamour instead of something else that might be for casters/healers but simply isn't accessible to dancer, thats not making it matter more - its making it matter less. Quite the contrary, we want it to matter more by letting us have creative freedom with glamour.

In a perfect world not only would this already be the case, but they would also have enough resources to make gear for every single job separately for every single duty. That way they could retain job identity, but alas in reality this isn't feasible in game development. So instead, let us glamour anything on anything (save for AF gear). It doesn't require more work on gear each expansion/patch on their end and we're happy because we get to work with all the gear available in-game instead of just a handful of items that most people pick because they look "the best". This is also why there is such a huge amount of players using all classes level 1 gear as glam on a lot of their jobs because the glam options for those jobs are just so limited.

I was being rather sarcastic that time... not the least bit sorry. What you're asking for just doesn't make enough sense. They go through the trouble of making gear to fit different roles and you want them to mess with that core system of role / level assigned gear. What I jokingly suggested is really the fastest and easiest way they're going to achieve that. Keep fighting the silly fight though. I'm gonna keep enjoying the game as it is.

[Flaws]

I was being rather sarcastic that time... not the least bit sorry. What you're asking for just doesn't make enough sense. They go through the trouble of making gear to fit different roles and you want them to mess with that core system of role / level assigned gear. What I jokingly suggested is really the fastest and easiest way they're going to achieve that. Keep fighting the silly fight though. I'm gonna keep enjoying the game as it is.

I'll just assume (and hope) that you're trolling at this point.

[Deveryn]

I'll just assume (and hope) that you're trolling at this point.

That is very much not my thing. It's clearly yours that you keep quoting and looking for a response.