What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[aveyond-dreams]

I’m just hoping SE keeps in mind it’s okay for not everything to have happy endings, something 14 has lost touch on. If they start undoing the tragedies that happened in the game and made it so iconic and popular…it’s going to be sad and a major shame.

Very true, Final Fantasy VII is many things but a hugbox for comfort characters isn't one of them. How they will handle upcoming sacrifices in the story remains to be seen, but if nothing else at least the journey in the remake felt good to be a part of. I can't say the same thing for my journey with the Scions, who have no grit or uniqueness to them. In the first 5 minutes of the added dialogue in the remake between Barret and Cloud, the two of them show more personality than the entirety of Thancred during Endwalker.

[Theodric]

Very true, Final Fantasy VII is many things but a hugbox for comfort characters isn't one of them. How they will handle upcoming sacrifices in the story remains to be seen, but if nothing else at least the journey in the remake felt good to be a part of. I can't say the same thing for my journey with the Scions, who have no grit or uniqueness to them. In the first 5 minutes of the added dialogue in the remake between Barret and Cloud, the two of them show more personality than the entirety of Thancred during Endwalker.

Honestly? Even if FFVIIR chickens out on 'that' scene it won't bother me as much simply because it doesn't have a spiteful and gleeful habit of ensuring that the antagonists die horribly and lose absolutely everything around them.

Much as I dislike the recent direction of FFXIV it's good to know that there's still games with the aesthetics, character designs and tone that I enjoy.
Both the antagonists and the protagonists in the single player games manage to appeal to me quite a bit whereas in FFXIV the 'good guys' are so coated in sugar and inoffensive that it becomes all the more frustrating when someone who breaks the norm arrives only to be killed off, made to change their ideals or simply find themselves hidden away in side quests.

I just hope that FFXIV can strike a better balance between appeasing those of us who prefer the likes of Varis and other stoic and serious characters as well as those who want the 'HaHa He EaT buRgAR!!' scenes. Such elements wouldn't bother me nearly as much then.

[ReynTime]

Very true, Final Fantasy VII is many things but a hugbox for comfort characters isn't one of them. How they will handle upcoming sacrifices in the story remains to be seen, but if nothing else at least the journey in the remake felt good to be a part of. I can't say the same thing for my journey with the Scions, who have no grit or uniqueness to them. In the first 5 minutes of the added dialogue in the remake between Barret and Cloud, the two of them show more personality than the entirety of Thancred during Endwalker.

The original VII sure. But this is a very different SE now.

I'm surprised people still have doubts they won't chicken out on everything, considering the red flags so far: (SPOILERS)

The alternate universe and multiverse pretentious nonsense they added has been pointing towards "let's fix everything to make fans who hate deaths/sacrifices happy".

You want to tell me Wedge being alive wasn't a red flag already? Or the fact literally every named character from Sector 7 escapes from death wasn't either?

My prediction is that even Biggs is alive. And somehow they will find a way to have Zack return sometime in Part 3, and Aerith's death will not happen.

If they had actual balls they'd have Aerith and a few other characters die again/stay dead and try sending a message of letting go rather than rewarding the fanbase for being so hung on characters they like dying.

I lost optimism for SE long before FFXIV 1.0 even came out so I have a different perspective from most people in a FF game forum I guess. The last FF I enjoyed was XII, and even that one I can no longer go back to, which means the only ones I persistently have fun replaying are I ~ X and XIV.

("than how a handful of people view Graha")

Ok serious talk. What is it about a portion of this game's fanbase that they feel this weird necessity to reassure themselves and everyone witnessing a discussion that people disagreeing with them are a 'minority'.

Seriously, every time I see a negative criticism to any aspect of the game I can already see at least one person holding a cup of tea, trying to contain their hands as they start shaking, then telling themselves to take a deep breath, and give a nervous smile to their fellow yesmen/women who look absolutely horrified that someone who had bad things to say about the game exist, and thus the person smiling says: "Don't worry! Don't worry guys!! It's just a minority!! Everybody knows the SILENT MAJORITY loves everything about this game, right????"

[Raoabolic]

I lost optimism for SE long before FFXIV 1.0 even came out so I have a different perspective from most people in a FF game forum I guess. The last FF I enjoyed was XII, and even that one I can no longer go back to, which means the only ones I persistently have fun replaying are I ~ X and XIV.

FFX-2 is a lot of things but I will shill for it's battle system. I could play X-2's via purifico dungeon all day. Just strip the story to it's bare bones and let me play as the three magical girls that transform into FF classes!

[RyuDragnier]

FFX-2 is a lot of things but I will shill for it's battle system. I could play X-2's via purifico dungeon all day. Just strip the story to it's bare bones and let me play as the three magical girls that transform into FF classes!

Man I love FFX-2's battle system. It's a shame the international version culled the amazing Cat Nip trick, I don't think I'd have been able to clear Via Purifico's final boss without that max damage Trigger Happy spam. <_<