Glam Dresser is inadequate, even doubling it does not solve the problem.

[Iscah]

What's the point of having limited space to store glammours, and having class restriction on the glammour plate? If they don't have the ability to solve the storage system, they could at least let the glammour free for all classes.

The glamour plate system ultimately produces the same result as glamour prisms, just with a better interface. It's still the same old rules determining whether the glamour will show once it is applied to the gear, because the system can't see a difference.

[Adamantini]

The glamour plate system ultimately produces the same result as glamour prisms, just with a better interface. It's still the same old rules determining whether the glamour will show once it is applied to the gear, because the system can't see a difference.

then redo. Weren't they the ones who said they would "spare no expense"? Or is the company so incompetent that it can't provide either option?

[Iscah]

then redo. Weren't they the ones who said they would "spare no expense"? Or is the company so incompetent that it can't provide either option?

It's also the company that said they tried to do a full glamour log and the system couldn't handle it.

Maybe they've tried a lot of things and it hasn't worked out. But the fact that they essentially built the new system over the old one without disturbing it suggests that they either won't or can't disturb some underlying part of it.

[Rolder50]

It's also the company that said they tried to do a full glamour log and the system couldn't handle it.

Maybe they've tried a lot of things and it hasn't worked out. But the fact that they essentially built the new system over the old one without disturbing it suggests that they either won't or can't disturb some underlying part of it.

And yet they also claimed things like showing Collected Yes/No on minions and orchestration rolls would be impossible. Until a mod did it and they added it after.

[DPZ2]

And yet they also claimed things like showing Collected Yes/No on minions and orchestration rolls would be impossible. Until a mod did it and they added it after.

Please indicate which Live Letter you're thinking about where the word 'impossible' came out of the dev team's response to a question about this.

The standard response is not "we can't do that because it's impossible". It is "we can look into it but make no promises about future features". "A mod can do it" is a poor example in any case, because the programmer has no liability whatsoever if/when the mod breaks the game in unspectacular ways.

[Deveryn]

Please indicate which Live Letter you're thinking about where the word 'impossible' came out of the dev team's response to a question about this.

The standard response is not "we can't do that because it's impossible". It is "we can look into it but make no promises about future features". "A mod can do it" is a poor example in any case, because the programmer has no liability whatsoever if/when the mod breaks the game in unspectacular ways.

Zepla actually brought it up in a recent video about mods. They had an UI programmer on taking questions with Yoshi and they said no to this. Whether or not the word impossible was used, I forget. People here love to extract words where they don't exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYh4YCaIPEU

[Midareyukki]

"A mod can do it" is a poor example in any case, because the programmer has no liability whatsoever if/when the mod breaks the game in unspectacular ways.

On one hand, correct.

On the other hand, it does show the feature can be implemented, even in a poor and shoddy manner. With proper attention and testing from people dedicated to the game, that function can be more or less implemented.

The only time I think it's absolutely... well, not "impossible" but downright improbable within a given time frame, is when the feature messes with baseline code.
Such as what people said the Glamour Dresser in Housing thing was: If you tried to edit your house's layout while someone was using the glamour dresser, the game would freak out and crash. Because instances. And again, it's not that that error would make it inherently impossible. Just that you'd have to redo some of the game's code, which goes beyond just simply adding the function in. And keep in mind, they did clean up their code back in Stormblood, so I think either we're due another major cleanup if stuff like this happens. Because given how many people want a Glamour Dresser in housing, they may want to look into implementing it in the future. And that will require all the necessarily cleanups.

Though I don't think this "a mod can do it criticism" works for everything. We know of processes and mods that are generally harmless and easy to do, and don't inherently break anything code-related. Not even quality standards, given how clipping is literally rampant on cutscenes and final bosses *cough cough* Hrothgar hairstyle mods.

On that note... I doubt people would want to expose themselves by answering this, but have there been any third party tools that massively broke the game? At least in terms of "they never patched what was causing the problem", because I guess even third party tools are allowed to be "Beta" like Character Portraits are.

[DPZ2]

On the other hand, it does show the feature can be implemented, even in a poor and shoddy manner. With proper attention and testing from people dedicated to the game, that function can be more or less implemented.

On the PC.

In spite of the actual game coding.

"Breaking the game" doesn't need to include causing raiding to fail, by the way. I've been shown examples of glamour mods that, somehow, randomly remove the hands and feet of an NPC or player.

Think of it this way ... a mod can be compared to taking a photograph of a place you enjoy going, running it through Photoshop to insert a fast food chain logo on every leaf and rock, and then showing it to someone and saying "see how easy this is to do? why can't reality be changed to match it?"

[Adamantini]

It's also the company that said they tried to do a full glamour log and the system couldn't handle it.

Maybe they've tried a lot of things and it hasn't worked out. But the fact that they essentially built the new system over the old one without disturbing it suggests that they either won't or can't disturb some underlying part of it.

so they're just incompetent anyway