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  1. #121
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    So is gettin a house and letting it rot empty, bc you might as well just get an fc room or apartment. Or stick with inns.

    IRL if your neighbor literally has a rotten dumpster as garden and just lets everything fall apart youd complain as well, sooner or later...

    Im not saying burn 5441354353 gil on your house, but if you bother to get one then at least do ANYTHING with it or give it someone who yearns for it. Theres so much stuff for free or REALLY cheep... when i was new most furniture was expensive or rare, nowadays you get primal stuff for 3k or even less... it doesnt kill you to place a garden patch, any tree or flower and maybe a well or spring, or pond... anything.
    Again, why are you so invested in other people's time and money? You have an entire 24 hours of the day you can dedicate to you, your family, and your friends. This stranger, which you've likely never interacted with, is living rent free inside your head because they don't decorate their house lol. They can do what they want with it. Maybe they don't have time to decorate it, maybe they're busy doing their own thing, bottom line is: who cares?

    This is a game dude, it's not IRL, I'm not going to expect their house to literally rot in front of my eyes. Also I've lived in neighborhoods where some of my neighbor's houses looked exactly as you described. I don't care because it's frankly not my business!

    Seriously lol, these poor homeowners cannot win. Either salty people want their houses taken away so they can get a home, or homeowners want their neighbor's home taken away because they don't like what they're doing with them. Homeowners aren't entitled to cater to you or anyone else's tastes, they played by the rules and got a house, and that's that. It doesn't kill you to mind your own business and let the powers be where they be btw.
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    I get it when you get a house and don't have the time and resources to decorate it right away. But there are so many houses almost empty for years now. It's unfair and disrespectful towards other people who would love to decorate a house but only could get an apartment. Even if it doesn't affect the me personally because I was lucky enough to get a house years ago. It's still unfair towards players who didn't.

    I don't understand all the people who say I shouldn't care; why is being inconsiderate towards other people so extremely encouraged by everyone even if they wouldn't do it? It's the exact same with how people are ok with carrying AFK players through content (and countless things irl). Every time someone rants about it there are a hundred people defending them...
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  3. #123
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limonia View Post
    I get it when you get a house and don't have the time and resources to decorate it right away. But there are so many houses almost empty for years now. It's unfair and disrespectful towards other people who would love to decorate a house but only could get an apartment.

    I don't understand all the people who say I shouldn't care; why is being inconsiderate towards other people so extremely encouraged by everyone even if they wouldn't do it? It's the exact same with how people are ok with carrying AFK players through content (and countless things irl). Every time someone rants about it there are a hundred people defending them...
    TIL: Not decorating your house is being inconsiderate towards other people. lol

    No, that's remotely not even the same thing btw. Being carried through content is vastly different from sitting in your empty home. Imagine if I came into your home and yelled about how it's not decorated enough to my tastes, would you be ok with that? Wouldn't I be the rude one? Many people don't have the talent to decorate or just simply don't want to put time into it, that's ok. It's not for everyone, and it doesn't mean that they should have their house taken away for it lol.

    There's the infamous Mateus person who owns multiple wards or something close to that, is that inconsiderate and rude? Or is it ok because they beautifully decorated the homes to look like little towns? They were grandfathered in, so it's not like they used shell FCs or anything like that to achieve that result. But now because housing is so limited, many people have called that out as rude behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    There's the infamous Spriggan person who owns multiple wards or something close to that, is that inconsiderate and rude? Or is it ok because they beautifully decorated the homes to look like little towns? They were grandfathered in, so it's not like they used shell FCs or anything like that to achieve that result. But now because housing is so limited, many people have called that out as rude behavior.
    It's impossible for multiple house ownership on Spriggan to be grandfathered in. The rules change leading to the grandfathered housing was in 4.2. Spriggan housing didn't open until 5.08.

    There most definitely was abuse of shell FCs to gain control of almost an entire ward on Spriggan. I remember seeing it when I did a housing census late 2019. Spriggan was not the only world where I found similar abuse of shells FCs to gain control of most of a ward.

    The infamous ward that was grandfathered was on Mateus.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's impossible for multiple house ownership on Spriggan to be grandfathered in. The rules change leading to the grandfathered housing was in 4.2. Spriggan housing didn't open until 5.08.

    There most definitely was abuse of shell FCs to gain control of almost an entire ward on Spriggan. I remember seeing it when I did a housing census late 2019. Spriggan was not the only world where I found similar abuse of shells FCs to gain control of most of a ward.

    The infamous ward that was grandfathered was on Mateus.
    Ah thanks, I knew I was misremembering lol. Edited to reflect that, ty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Im not saying burn 5441354353 gil on your house, but if you bother to get one then at least do ANYTHING with it or give it someone who yearns for it.
    It is not the players responsibility to give content to other players. If people yearn for a house, SE should be providing them.

    If you aren't decorating your house right now and hand it over to another player, there's a good chance you'll never get one again in the future if you change your mind. You aren't obligated to make that sacrifice because the devs designed the system poorly. It's not on you.

    Personally though, I would ban players from housing who attack other players or harass them over not deserving a plot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    If people yearn for a house, SE should be providing them.
    "If people yearn for the Ramuh mount, SE should be providing them" -- not.

    Games need goals that are difficult to achieve. Getting a house is such a goal.
    This "everyone gets a trophy" nonsense needs to stop.
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    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    "If people yearn for the Ramuh mount, SE should be providing them" -- not.

    Games need goals that are difficult to achieve. Getting a house is such a goal.
    This "everyone gets a trophy" nonsense needs to stop.
    Isn't that why it costs money? lol. You saved up 40m ---> you can get a medium house.
    Personal housing cannot accommodate for playerbase demand, seems like its a SE problem to me. What's difficult about throwing your money into a lotto for a chance to win a house again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    "If people yearn for the Ramuh mount, SE should be providing them" -- not.

    Games need goals that are difficult to achieve. Getting a house is such a goal.
    This "everyone gets a trophy" nonsense needs to stop.
    Then just like they don't advertise the Ramuh mount - how is this even comparable?- on front-facing banners everywhere for the game, they shouldn't do it for housing either. Great false equivalence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Then just like they don't advertise the Ramuh mount - how is this even comparable?- on front-facing banners everywhere for the game, they shouldn't do it for housing either. Great false equivalence.
    Your statement sems predicated on the assumption that apartments do not exist or are not available.
    They do exist, and they are available. Therefore, housing is available.
    Just not the trophy houses that people lust after.
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