Decorate the house would you.

[Silverbane]

If people yearn for a house, SE should be providing them.

"If people yearn for the Ramuh mount, SE should be providing them" -- not.

Games need goals that are difficult to achieve. Getting a house is such a goal.
This "everyone gets a trophy" nonsense needs to stop.

[Padudu]

"If people yearn for the Ramuh mount, SE should be providing them" -- not.

Games need goals that are difficult to achieve. Getting a house is such a goal.
This "everyone gets a trophy" nonsense needs to stop.

Isn't that why it costs money? lol. You saved up 40m ---> you can get a medium house.
Personal housing cannot accommodate for playerbase demand, seems like its a SE problem to me. What's difficult about throwing your money into a lotto for a chance to win a house again?

[Silverbane]

Isn't that why it costs money? lol. You saved up 40m ---> you can get a medium house.
Personal housing cannot accommodate for playerbase demand, seems like its a SE problem to me. What's difficult about throwing your money into a lotto for a chance to win a house again?

This game throws gil at players; the only poor players are those that play poorly.
And there's a lot of RNG in loot drops, especially mount drops.

[Padudu]

This game throws gil at players; the only poor players are those that play poorly.
And there's a lot of RNG in loot drops, especially mount drops.

So again, what's the difficulty of throwing your money at RNGesus? Like you said, the poor players are the people who play poorly, so they don't deserve a 40m house. Hell, if they don't have the 3mil minimum, they don't deserve a small either, right?

However, the people who have played efficiently, and have saved up their money for a medium or a large, they should be able to get one, should they not? After all, they put in the time and effort to save all that gil.

And yes, there is a lot of RNG in loot drops, grind enough and you'll eventually get one though. At the very least, you'll eventually get one if you do it consistently enough. Housing doesn't really have that chance when you consider the amount of people bidding on a plot. /shrug

[Silverbane]

Housing doesn't really have that chance when you consider the amount of people bidding on a plot. /shrug

Housing? Are you saying people have to place a deposit (not really a bid) in a lottery to get an apartment?

People complaining about "housing" are really complaining about trophy housing (i.e., houses), not about "housing."
SO, do they just want the big publicly-visible real estate that makes them special?

Well, it won't be special if everyone gets one, will it? And if it's instanced, it's no more publicly visible than an apartment.

So, what's your problem with apartments?
Not as big as you deserve? Not ostentatious enough?

Apartments were the fix SE put in response to complaints that there wasn't enough personal housing.
Absent a compelling argument for why it isn't such a fix, that doesn't revolve around players who believe they are entitled to better, I don't expect SE to change anything about housing as it is today.

[Padudu]

Apartments were the fix SE put in response to complaints that there wasn't enough personal housing.
Absent a compelling argument for why it isn't such a fix, that doesn't revolve around players who believe they are entitled to better, I don't expect SE to change anything about housing as it is today.

I'll argue that it's more like a bandaid; it's smaller, you don't have the features of a regular house (garden, outdoor furniture, ect). Yes, the appeal is also that the house is bigger and you have a bigger space to be more creative in, if you want. I wonder, why doesn't it also apply to the people who constantly insist that they want neighborhoods because of the "neighborhood feel" despite wards being dead most of the time.

The only real upsides of an apartment is that it's a permanent fixture and that's it's cheaper, of course.
Also, at least in my opinion, I don't really care for the "special" feeling of it lol. I just like decorating, so it's what I do. I imagine most people who care want instanced housing, don't really care about it being a special trophy, they just want a big space of their own.

Again, apartments were a bandaid, not a "fix" - a fix would be the personal housing itself. I think you and I have seen many, many, many times how people regard apartments as inadequate. Funny how in other games btw, this feeling of a house "being a trophy", isn't even an argument. Only here it is because SE flubbed housing real hard.

[RobynDaBank]

"If people yearn for the Ramuh mount, SE should be providing them" -- not.

Games need goals that are difficult to achieve. Getting a house is such a goal.
This "everyone gets a trophy" nonsense needs to stop.

Then just like they don't advertise the Ramuh mount - how is this even comparable?- on front-facing banners everywhere for the game, they shouldn't do it for housing either. Great false equivalence.

[Silverbane]

Then just like they don't advertise the Ramuh mount - how is this even comparable?- on front-facing banners everywhere for the game, they shouldn't do it for housing either. Great false equivalence.

Your statement sems predicated on the assumption that apartments do not exist or are not available.
They do exist, and they are available. Therefore, housing is available.
Just not the trophy houses that people lust after.