Quote Originally Posted by LordGiggles View Post
But it's not inconsequential, because we are given the Ea as an example of a "failed" civilisation. They fought to thrive as a civilisation and had a strong drive to continue existing, but despite doing everything right here, they still ran into a fate they could do nothing about. If they stay mortal they're leaving themselves susceptible to a heap of different ends, but if they become immortal they are still unable to escape the eventual fate of the universe.
The issue with the Ea is not actually about the heat death of the universe, it’s about how their discovery made them feel as if life was pointless. They gave up, long before the heat death would occur, believing that it meant nothing if it isn’t indefinite. That’s the issue.

Quote Originally Posted by LordGiggles View Post
The issue with the themes here is that the Ea are an absolute best case scenario, with the only real options being to either choose death, or live to drift aimlessly forever in an endless void. The only difference between them and the sundered is that the latter are much, much worse at solving their problems.
Hard disagree. The Sundered may have to face more struggle, but they in turn have happier, more fulfilling lives. The Ea either kill themselves or become moral with new flesh bodies and then kill themselves. Their lives in their eyes are not worth living, meanwhile the Sundered still find joy and meaning in their existence. There’s a clear benefit.

Quote Originally Posted by LordGiggles View Post
It doesn't work very well thematically when the inevitable outcome of successfully chasing that desire to live longer is held up as a failure.
Welcome to our own existence is all I can say. Atm we have the exact same circumstance bearing down on us.