[Suggestion] Can we get a “Hide All Players” option?

[Kozh]

....you dont know what a Troll is if thats how you label me.
I understand the concept of immersion just fine, and I haven't ignored anything, never even said anything about Permanent removal. Just that its silly to want to hide people and glamour in an MMO.

It's only silly because you don't even try to understand where people are coming from. If not a troll, then I would say you're an egoist. Is that better? Or do you prefer troll?

Let me explain, your argument hinged on the assumption that people who "hides players" won't interact with people, ever. Which is just plain wrong. What if people like OP decided to socially interact with others after doing their MSQ/taking a break from it? Will you still say that they're not supposed to play MMO?

Besides, if you haven't noticed already, there are already people who play this game as single player game first and MMO second right now. The game itself support such players. MSQ is 100% single player focused. We have duty finder to minimize social interaction (no need to shout LFG like in old school mmorpg). And now we have Trust system. So yeah, sorry to say bud, but people playing this game as single player game is as valid as you.

And before you have the wrong idea, no I actually don't support turning this game into full-fledged single player game. But my concern is more related to MSQ difficulty or job/trial's design, not about people being able to decide when they want to socially interact. Or, god forbid, want to have full immersion when doing the beloved and critically acclaimed MSQ story.

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When I play them, yes. I even leave it on during Raids, & EX Trials and PvP.
But I dont play Savage very often, Im pretty casual, I mostly try that content with friends.
Haven't done Ultimate yet myself, lots to remember, frankly abit intimidating for me.

You know what else people wouldn't do often? Leaving other player characters off outside of MSQ. If people want to do the MSQ without a bunch of other players swarming around the npcs they should have that right.
Why is it fine for you to not constantly do multiplayer content but when others want the simple ability to not see other player characters you cry and demand that they must see?

Just because the game is marketed as an MMO doesn't mean literally everything in it must require interaction with others. The MSQ is not multiplayer outside of dungeons. Quests in general are not multiplayer. Crafting is not multiplayer. Beast tribes are not multiplayer. Housing is not multiplayer. Custom Deliveries aren't multiplayer. Bloody TRUSTS aren't multiplayer. If anyone's "removing" the multiplayer content it's Square Enix themselves.

[Krotoan]

Because there is a speed limit. Unless your are in an isolated area where you can cause no harm to others.


Same here, sometimes you can cook and eat foods without adding Hotsauce. Can ruin the food itself.
Plus heartburn and Indigestion sucks

And in MMO's overexposure to others can be tiring/exasperating and there are rules against what people do to each other that get broken as well. You're concentrating much to much on the reality constraint and not the equivalence to what you're suggesting that if you sometimes don't wish to engage in every part of an MMO experience you should just not play the MMO.

This is True! Just dont! I dont disagree with this at all and havent argued against it! Not sure why its a talking point.

Except you're arguing that if someone doesn't wish to they should just not play.

Also true! But if this is a talking point for playing an MMO it doesn't really make sense. An MMO is a Social Space with other players typically.
You dont have to socialize with them or really interact with them, but they are there as part of the experience of playing an MMO - Mass Multiplayer Online.

They don't HAVE to be at all times is the point I'm making. Disney world tourists are "part of the experience" of visiting Disney world but if you could break real world physics and somehow make it so you didn't have to deal with them if only some of the time so you could get a nice picture without some 300 pound sweaty person in a tank top in the background.. wouldn't that be nice?

Viola welcome to video games where you can.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

It's only silly because you don't even try to understand where people are coming from. If not a troll, then I would say you're an egoist. Is that better? Or do you prefer troll?

Let me explain, your argument hinged on the assumption that people who "hides players" won't interact with people, ever. Which is just plain wrong. What if people like OP decided to socially interact with others after doing their MSQ/taking a break from it? Will you still say that they're not supposed to play MMO?

Besides, if you haven't noticed already, there are already people who play this game as single player game first and MMO second right now. The game itself support such players. MSQ is 100% single player focused. We have duty finder to minimize social interaction (no need to shout LFG like in old school mmorpg). And now we have Trust system. So yeah, sorry to say bud, but people playing this game as single player game is as valid as you.

And before you have the wrong idea, no I actually don't support turning this game into full-fledged single player game. But my concern is more related to MSQ difficulty or job/trial's design, not about people being able to decide when they want to socially interact. Or, god forbid, want to have full immersion when doing the beloved and critically acclaimed MSQ story.

Neither sound accurate, I guess more dismissive or hostile? IDK. Either way, Troll and Egotist dont sounds accurate.
Also...inaccurate...my entire "argument" is just why play an MMO if you want to hide people. Its surface level and VERY simple and straight to the point. You dont want to deal with other people. Don't. Ive said that a couple of times I think.

You know what else people wouldn't do often? Leaving other player characters off outside of MSQ. If people want to do the MSQ without a bunch of other players swarming around the npcs they should have that right.
Why is it fine for you to not constantly do multiplayer content but when others want the simple ability to not see other player characters you cry and demand that they must see?

Just because the game is marketed as an MMO doesn't mean literally everything in it must require interaction with others. The MSQ is not multiplayer outside of dungeons. Quests in general are not multiplayer. Crafting is not multiplayer. Beast tribes are not multiplayer. Housing is not multiplayer. Custom Deliveries aren't multiplayer. Bloody TRUSTS aren't multiplayer. If anyone's "removing" the multiplayer content it's Square Enix themselves.

So is this becoming an argument that just because I asked why take out what makes an MMO, means that I should be forced to play Savage/Ultimate?
Im not sure I follow this reasoning. Im also lost where there is this idea that I cryed and demanded that you need to see other peoples characters.

Again, Ive said many times..or at least a couple of times..that if you dont want to interact with others...dont.

And in MMO's overexposure to others can be tiring/exasperating and there are rules against what people do to each other that get broken as well. You're concentrating much to much on the reality constraint and not the equivalence to what you're suggesting that if you sometimes don't wish to engage in every part of an MMO experience you should just not play the MMO.

So are you saying these people cant literally be ignored?
I mean sure its a different story if they are harassing you, but otherwise if you dont want to interact..simply dont,
At this point Im convinced people wanna argue and fight on ignoring VS getting a switch off button. heck we already have a block button/Banlist if you really just dont want to interact.
I Havent suggested to not play an mmo, I simply asked why play an MMO if you want other people off the screen.

Except you're arguing that if someone doesn't wish to they should just not play.

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They don't HAVE to be at all times is the point I'm making. Disney world tourists are "part of the experience" of visiting Disney world but if you could break real world physics and somehow make it so you didn't have to deal with them if only some of the time so you could get a nice picture without some 300 pound sweaty person in a tank top in the background.. wouldn't that be nice?

Viola welcome to video games where you can.

Pffft we all wish we could break real world Physics I tell ya!
Would be nice. So if it somehow was never clear, I didnt argue that this couldnt happen, and I never mentioned to not play an MMO.
If they decide for themselves to make this a feature, Id still say its a silly feature, but I am in no way telling people they cant have it. Not even gonna call them lesser for using it. I did not once say that.

[Krotoan]

So are you saying these people cant literally be ignored?
I mean sure its a different story if they are harassing you, but otherwise if you dont want to interact..simply dont,

some people make it VERY difficult and right now if you wish to use or exist in a "public" space in FFXIV you have to deal with whomever is there.

At this point Im convinced people wanna argue and fight on ignoring VS getting a switch off button. heck we already have a block button/Banlist if you really just dont want to interact.

Those options only stop them from directly chatting to you or you seeing what they're saying, they still digitally render on your screen and depending on glamour and character size can be exceedingly hard to "ignore".

I Havent suggested to not play an mmo, I simply asked why play an MMO if you want other people off the screen.
Quote Please.

Being as charitable as I can, since you in reciprocation have NOT been antagonistic (on purpose)..

If this is truly your only question then the answer is:
Because FFXIV (and other MMO's) offer experiences, locations, aesthetics, and environments to play in with game elements to interact with that are engaging, beautiful and entertaining as well as unique. I play an MMO that contains many aspects of entertainment, some of which are entirely enjoyable and sometimes even more so without other people around or intruding on the experience.

Pffft we all wish we could break real world Physics I tell ya!
Would be nice. So if it somehow was never clear, I didnt argue that this couldnt happen, and I never mentioned to not play an MMO.
If they decide for themselves to make this a feature, Id still say its a silly feature, but I am in no way telling people they cant have it. Not even gonna call them lesser for using it. I did not once say that.

IF... truly your statement is at face value and not some sort of weird virtue signal or word twist then fine. I have answered your question. Many people play MMO's because of what they are made of as far as content, not necessarily because other people are there.

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So is this becoming an argument that just because I asked why take out what makes an MMO, means that I should be forced to play Savage/Ultimate?
Im not sure I follow this reasoning. Im also lost where there is this idea that I cryed and demanded that you need to see other peoples characters.

Again, Ive said many times..or at least a couple of times..that if you dont want to interact with others...dont.

You're not doing all the available multiplayer content in this multiplayer game. You're anti-social. Let's get rid of the MSQ, since it's not part of what makes an MMO

Except you're arguing that if someone doesn't wish to they should just not play.

Quote Please.

You are literally in the wrong game if you want to be alone.

Usually saying "you're in the wrong game" means you're telling people they should quit.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

You're not doing all the available multiplayer content in this multiplayer game. You're anti-social. Let's get rid of the MSQ, since it's not part of what makes an MMO

Usually saying "you're in the wrong game" means you're telling people they should quit.

lol, cute.
Not even what I said.
Or is that targeted at me and your calling ME anti-social?
D:

Thats a fine interpretation...but its also the wrong interpretation.
I didnt tell anybody to quit, even the quote you used didnt even say that.
How you may think it sounds, is not the same as what I actually did say, or what I meant by it. If you or anybody need clarification to my words, please ask. Then ridicule me after you understand me.

---Being as charitable as I can, since you in reciprocation have NOT been antagonistic (on purpose)..
If this is truly your only question then the answer is:
Because FFXIV (and other MMO's) offer experiences, locations, aesthetics, and environments to play in with game elements to interact with that are engaging, beautiful and entertaining as well as unique. I play an MMO that contains many aspects of entertainment, some of which are entirely enjoyable and sometimes even more so without other people around or intruding on the experience.

--IF... truly your statement is at face value and not some sort of weird virtue signal or word twist then fine. I have answered your question. Many people play MMO's because of what they are made of as far as content, not necessarily because other people are there.

Ive been nothing but straight Foreword. Even under fire I have tried to be as clear as possible; repeating myself and not lash out,
If I was antagonistic, I hate that I somehow would come off that way, Im not here to get into fights or police anybody. Wasnt even the goal of my Original Post.

My mind remains unchanged that I personally find it silly...but I do respect the answers you have given me, as they were clear and not Antagonistic. And hey, everyone has a preference and everyone plays the game differently. Not here to tell anybody otherwise.

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Thats a fine interpretation...but its also the wrong interpretation.
I didnt tell anybody to quit, even the quote you used didnt even say that.

I'll say it again for you, usually saying "you're in the wrong game" means you're telling people they should quit. Understand that. It doesn't matter what you think it meant, pretty much everyone interpreted it the same way.

My mind remains unchanged that I personally find it silly...but I do respect the answers you have given me, as they were clear and not Antagonistic. And hey, everyone has a preference and everyone plays the game differently. Not here to tell anybody otherwise.

Why have you been against the possibility of this feature then if everyone plays the game differently?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

--I'll say it again for you, usually saying "you're in the wrong game" means you're telling people they should quit. Understand that. It doesn't matter what you think it meant, pretty much everyone interpreted it the same way.
--Why have you been against the possibility of this feature then if everyone plays the game differently?

--I read and understood you the 1st time...and its still the wrong interpretation.
I never said that, and you or anybody thinking thats what I meant grossly misunderstood me.
Dont wanna take my word for it? Ok fine. But Ive explained myself

--I wasn't. Never once said I was.
I even said ""If they decide for themselves to make this a feature, Id still say its a silly feature, but I am in no way telling people they cant have it. Not even gonna call them lesser for using it"" Where in any of my messages have I claimed that I was Against the Possibility of this Feature?
Because I can tell you I said the Opposite

[Lihtleita]

Do you understand the concept of immersion?

i dont think im gonna be more immersed seeing what patchwork horrors hide behind peoples glamours.