What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Xirean]

Has 14 always been like this? I always use to find the 14 community to be decent if maybe a little defensive, but though I don't like the terminology it seems to be getting more like cult in a lot of online spaces

Considering you can get banned from certain 14 discords for expressing a critical view of nearly any aspect of the story/characters; it's pretty frustrating. Not sure if it's always been this way, but theres' A LOT of varying types of people that play the game. Imo that's part of the reason for the hyper defensiveness. Also to be fair, a number of people have even commented that people in this thread push de-scenting opinions out that aren't critical. Regardless if that's actually the case or not, people get that impression. Being critical or debating can easily be construed as trolling or looking for a fight/drama; quite sad if you ask me.

Edit: On the note of discords though. Is there one for this sort of discussion or would people in here be interested in forming one? There's clearly a lot of people interested in the general topic.

[Brinne]

Considering you can get banned from certain 14 discords for expressing a critical view of nearly any aspect of the story/characters; it's pretty frustrating. Not sure if it's always been this way, but theres' A LOT of varying types of people that play the game. Imo that's part of the reason for the hyper defensiveness. Also to be fair, a number of people have even commented that people in this thread push de-scenting opinions out that aren't critical. Regardless if that's actually the case or not, people get that impression. Being critical or debating can easily be construed as trolling or looking for a fight/drama; quite sad if you ask me.

To be perfectly honest, for me, it's true that sometimes this thread and others like it become so embroiled in raw negativity and kind of weird ways of talking about the devs that I have to bow out for a while. I know it's the nature of the beast, especially a discussion that's gone on for this long, and, you know - given that the very premise is being a complaint/vent thread. But hey, as far as public forums for this game go, they're also one of the only places that don't feel entirely futile to post a tl;dr when the urge for vomiting words hits me, so.

[CrownySuccubus]

To be perfectly honest, for me, it's true that sometimes this thread and others like it become so embroiled in raw negativity and kind of weird ways of talking about the devs that I have to bow out for a while. I know it's the nature of the beast, especially a discussion that's gone on for this long, and, you know - given that the very premise is being a complaint/vent thread. But hey, as far as public forums for this game go, they're also one of the only places that don't feel entirely futile to post a tl;dr when the urge for vomiting words hits me, so.

Same. That's why I don't hesitate to speak up when the echo chamber of salt and negativity gets started. Eventually it becomes a contest of "who can say the most negative-sounding words about the game/plot/characters/devs for the highest upvotes"?

Ninety percent of the time, the topic and the people in it are chill. But that ten percent rolls in quick.