Turn Housing Demolition on

[Caitlinzulu]

What do the opponents of the demolition timer (which all house owners agreed to) suggest SE do about housing owned by dead players? Keep it off the market until sea swallows all and the servers shut down for good?

Euhm, not all people agreed to the demolition timer. Certainly not when buying.
A lot of people bought a house before thete was a shortage or any whisper of demolition timer.

[Silverbane]

Euhm, not all people agreed to the demolition timer. Certainly not when buying.
A lot of people bought a house before thete was a shortage or any whisper of demolition timer.

It's true that personal housing was introduced in September 2014, and the demolition timer was implemented a year later in October 2015 "to ensure that plots of land are not claimed and left unused." https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...81359611110f0/

As with any change in the game, anyone who continued to pay for their subscription afterwards tacitly agreed to it.

[Avidria]

It's true that personal housing was introduced in September 2014, and the demolition timer was implemented a year later in October 2015 "to ensure that plots of land are not claimed and left unused." https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...81359611110f0/

As with any change in the game, anyone who continued to pay for their subscription afterwards tacitly agreed to it.

I mean... Dealing with it and continuing to play the game isn't "agreeing to" anything really other than finding the product as a whole to still be worth paying for

Anyway the system as a whole is kind of a garbage fire and has been for a while. Demolition has been off often enough for it to barely do the job it's meant to, and even when it's on it hardly makes a dent because it only really addresses one problem (people who unsub/leave the game for good with no intention of ability to come back) out of many. I don't have an issue with it being off this much, I'm glad it gives some folks one less thing to worry about, but like. I also already have a house. So. It doesn't affect me either way. If I unsub I plan to sell my house first anyway

[Batbrat]

Euhm, not all people agreed to the demolition timer.

They did actually, they just didnt get to decide to.

I'm with the others in wondering what the ones who dont want to pay for their houses think should be done instead.
They want a neighborhood feel, so they dont want instanced housing. But they never want to lose their house, so they never want to free up spaces to have active neighbors, thus living in a stale dead neighborhood. Which at that rate, you might as well have instanced. but they dont want instanced. So what's the answer? Well, more wards, right? but if housing becomes something you have forever, that'll be a heck of a lot of servers added in overtime to make up for every player having a forever house. I can't see that working at all. There are so many xiv players its insane. If you agree that people should keep their houses forever, then you agree that a LOT of people should simply also consequencely, never have a house. Because the ones that got it first somehow matter more? Or something, I dont get it. I'm not seeing where the logic goes with this idea lol. I'm sure this is the part where someone goes (mickey mouse voice) "well the island of sanctuary-" you mean the one yoshi himself has told us to stop over-fantasizing about? we're doomed arent we

[Imora]

Agreed, Shibi. We need to focus on asking for MORE housing to meet the demand. That is the only way this problem will be fixed.

They LIKE the scarcity at SE.

That's why they won't add enough.

[Solowing]

Devs have some compassion and don't want to kick people whilst they are down. Get over yourself and wait. You'll be fine, trust me

For the most accepting of communities, people seem awfully indifferent to peoples plight when it stands in the way of them getting what they want...

[Solowing]

They LIKE the scarcity at SE.

That's why they won't add enough.

Them adding 20 additional wards, would do nothing for this problem since demand far outstrips supply. That complaint would be solved for like 24 hours, and then the "I cant get a house" threads will pop right back up and here we are back at square one.

[Johners]

Them adding 20 additional wards, would do nothing for this problem since demand far outstrips supply. That complaint would be solved for like 24 hours, and then the "I cant get a house" threads will pop right back up and here we are back at square one.

The other problem with throwing more wards at the problem is that each ward is effectively two zones. The first zone is plots 1-30 and then the subdivision for plots 31-60 which is then combined with an instance for each plot (although I imagine these are then inactive when a house interior is empty). Given how questionable the server infrastructure is for this game at times, I highly doubt they'd be able to keep throwing addition wards and entirely new housing at the problem.

Now they could opt for instanced housing which would instance entire plots, exterior included, with retroactive condensing of existing wards. Rather than being The Mists Ward 22 Plot 1, you'd be The Mists Plot 1 House 22. Now that might read like the same thing but if each entire plot is just an instance, those instances could probably (an assumption here btw) be turned off so to speak when they're not active. Effectively it would be like apartment buildings but for entire housing plots. You would lose the ability walk around 24 unique wards for each district per server but if this approach would provide greater scalability for housing supply, it's probably a sacrifice worth making.

[Alleo]

The war has NOTHING to do with the game either. So what the rus/ur are fighting. What does that have to do with FFXIV. So what they are at war. There are always wars WHO CARES. Crap like this is what holds anything back because people are crying over something out of their control. Boo hoo there is a war. It doesn't effect me or 80% of the rest of the player base.

So if people in real life should not care about their virtual house why should you care about getting one? Why are you so aggressive about this topic if its just a virtual home? If we take your arguments than bascially you have to simply accept that you dont own one and that it does not effect the current house owners at all.

[Solowing]

Euhm, not all people agreed to the demolition timer. Certainly not when buying.
A lot of people bought a house before thete was a shortage or any whisper of demolition timer.

I dont really care if people didn't agree to it, this game isn't a democracy.

I shouldnt be able to get a house because a bunch of people feel as if them getting the house should permanently lock it to them, even if they quit with no intention of returning? In a game where housing is a limited resource.....?