Can you stop reusing models please?

[RitsukoSonoda]

I remember someone going over how many reskins each expansion has on Reddit, and Endwalker has more reskins then the other expansions. So while reskins aren't new, they're more common then they have been. Which is odd when the game is making bank, no?

My question about that list. Does it increase with each expansion? Because that would be an expected trend then since the item database grows with each expansion.

[Kisshu]

My question about that list. Does it increase with each expansion? Because that would be an expected trend then since the item database grows with each expansion.

This is a list I made some time ago showing the development of crafted and dungeon leveling gear.



Purple = Unique, new gear-set listed
Green = First time used, new gear-set listed
Blue = Re-use swapped, old gear-set listed
Yellow = Re-use, old gear-set listed
Red = No item

Based on Warrior armor and weapon
Only takes crafted and dungeon gear
Raid and tome gear are not included as they would all be unique or first time used
Item can have unique mark even if the same model is used on the same tier, example Sharlayan coat being used by all jobs from same dungeon
Does not look at dye

It does show a decrease in new gear models over time.

[Iscah]

This is a list I made some time ago showing the development of crafted and dungeon leveling gear.

While it's a good chart overall, though I find the layout confusing to read, I think you've missed some things and it doesn't tell the full story, especially in Heavensward.

You've marked the Sohm Al weapon as unique when actually weapons from that series are all recycled from a scattering of sources, including weapons wielded by monsters and ARR crafted sets. The Foolkiller axe specifically is from the giants around Boulder Downs in central Coerthas.

And while it's true that the Woad and Sharlayan sets are unique in that they hadn't been seen before, they are extremely low on their model variety. There is only one Woad body piece model across all seven roles, essentially one pair of pants in seven variants, two models for shoes and gloves and three-and-a-half hats. Sharlayan has exactly one design for all seven roles, only different hats, and still some are repeats.

Again in Stormblood, the Shisui and Nomad sets are basically two core designs mixed-and-matched across seven roles.

Shadowbringers' Dwarven and Endwalker's Palaka sets are also low variety like this.

Another thing to factor in is how many weapons and job-specific gearsets they need to build per series, since the number of jobs has gone up with each expansion. That could be eating up some of their time for making new gear models.

[Kisshu]

While it's a good chart overall, though I find the layout confusing to read, I think you've missed some things and it doesn't tell the full story, especially in Heavensward.

You've marked the Sohm Al weapon as unique when actually weapons from that series are all recycled from a scattering of sources, including weapons wielded by monsters and ARR crafted sets. The Foolkiller axe specifically is from the giants around Red Rim in central Coerthas.

And while it's true that the Woad and Sharlayan sets are unique in that they hadn't been seen before, they are extremely low on their model variety. There is only one Woad body piece model across all seven roles, essentially one pair of pants in seven variants, two models for shoes and gloves and three-and-a-half hats. Sharlayan has exactly one design for all seven roles, only different hats, and still some are repeats.

Again in Stormblood, the Shisui and Nomad sets are basically two core designs mixed-and-matched across seven roles.

Shadowbringers' Dwarven and Endwalker's Palaka sets are also low variety like this.

Another thing to factor in is how many weapons and job-specific gearsets they need to build per series, since the number of jobs has gone up with each expansion. That could be eating up some of their time for making new gear models.

I agree that some sets are more alike in the same tier than others, which is something I've written in the description. The thing with Shisui gear is then that it's very different gear for male and female. If we compare this to the Imperial set that was released, it's near same for male/female, but only 2 base sets with minor variations (casters having cape vs. non on scouting+striking).

[Iscah]

I agree that some sets are more alike in the same tier than others, which is something I've written in the description. The thing with Shisui gear is then that it's very different gear for male and female. If we compare this to the Imperial set that was released, it's near same for male/female, but only 2 base sets with minor variations (casters having cape vs. non on scouting+striking).

I did forget about Shisui having gender differences, although that reminds me that they also used the Shisui designs as seasonal gear, so it's not unique.

(A pity they didn't include the gloves and hairpins in the dyeable seasonal version, though.)


Edit: On further thought, the Shisui gear is essentially ONE model per gender, except that some of them have the full model and some have parts of it (sleeves, drapes, etc) removed.