Who knew the 6.15 Omega Quests… (Spoilers)

[SannaR]

It's an important plot point to be able to explain, though.

'...Wait. Did I hear you correctly? The beast manifested before the sky began to burn?'

According to what we know about Kahlzahl from 'The Blasphemy Unmasked' and 'Amidst the Apocalypse', the Final Days of Thavnair didn't actually start until the first transformation of a Blasphemy. The index case has to happen first. This is similar to what we know about the Amaurotian Final Days, as the Watcher reiterates:

'One day, from within the earth, a terrible cry issued forth, affecting a profound change in all manner of life.'

But there's a couple of problems with this. The first is that Amaurot was supposedly an advanced society where everyone's wants and needs were generally fulfilled. This in itself makes the index case provide an interesting insight into their society. Second, even if an Amaurotian were to enter the depths of despair, they would be unable to transform because their Aether is too dense. Third, their creation magic, which is of the correct density to be influenced by dynamis, typically produces Arcane entities without a soul. So strictly speaking, the index event in Amaurot, the first Blasphemy, is likely going to be something with the soul of an Amaurotian, but with the physical aetheric density of creation magic. I could have sworn I'd seen something like this somewhere before, in the depths...

I would love to find out where it started, when it started and how fast it spread. As when we get told about through exploring phantom Amaurot and doing the side quests we find out that at least two different areas have already had to deal with murderous creations running rampant.

I really hate my brain at times cause while I was thinking about who the distressed person could have been my brain shot out an "Oh that would really suck and be awful" idea of it being Azem's fault. I mean it started outside of Amaurot and seemed to slowly spread. Now we have seen with just the WoL how much pressure and stress they get put under. Azem comes off as someone who's not in town often due to what their seat asks them to do. Which is to travel around helping people out and being the average person's voice. They also don't seem to be good in some aspects of magic let alone creation magic as if they were capable of solving the erupting volcano incident themselves you'd think they wouldn't have needed to ask Hythlodaeus to loan them Ifrita. That is unless Azem really did just love fighting things. Or one of their unamed companions turned the getting Ifrita and not losing their seat into a dare or a bet of some sort. But yes I would love to learn more of the specifics about the original Final Days even if it has to be something that no one in game who's still alive doesn't end up knowing. I just don't hold out hope for getting more pieces to the puzzle.

[Iscah]

The actual core of this, beyond the precise mechanics of an exact analogy (where none exists because this is a fantasy situation in a fantasy story), is that "someone is willing to endure injury and pain to protect you, therefore it's acceptable to just leave them in that state of injury and pain, where said injury and pain will probably continue to worsen" is ridiculous and fundamentally self-justifying more than anything else. If you care about that person and have humanity for them, you look for a way to get them out of that situation.

And what if the way to "get them out of the situation" was to undo and destroy the thing they put themself into the situation to protect? What if they would rather be left in that state then to have that reversal happen?

If they sacrificed themselves to revive the planet and let life flourish, would they want that flourishing life to be torn apart again to bring them back?

[Lyth]

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I suspect it has something to do with the 'threat to the star' on Elpis, and more specifically, Pandaemonium's hemitheos experiments.

Much like Elpis is the spirit of 'hope' in Greek Mythology, Asphodelos is a flower that illuminates the way into the Underworld. What better place to go looking for the soul of a lost loved one?

Either way, I suspect that a few of these questions will be answered by 6.4/6.5 in a way that might turn these discussions on their head.