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    In a lottery system like this one, every success story is only possible because hundreds of other people lost and feel like crap. This number will grow larger with time.
    We need more wards at this point. Even that is just a bandaid, but it's better than nothing and it's something square has shown they can actually do in the past. Failing even this, I think just communicating with players about the situation would go a long way. Since there are people pulling interview statements from like 2015 to back up what they believe about SE in 2022. If Square sat down and just did a live letter and dedicated even 10 minutes of it to explaining why the system is crap in current-year and what, if anything, they plan to do about it, I think a LOT of people would just shut up and understand or at the very least stop hoping for better.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 06-10-2022 at 03:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    In a lottery system like this one, every success story is only possible because thousands of other people lost and feel like crap.

    So you're going to make a negative response to someone sharing their success story, in an attempt to make them feel bad about finally accomplishing something? shame on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiaoShengwu View Post
    So you're going to make a negative response to someone sharing their success story, in an attempt to make them feel bad about finally accomplishing something? shame on you.
    It's not negative or positive, it's just the truth. OP is praising this system (barely; even op admits it's "a smaller turd sandwich" than what we had before) because she gained from it. Most people didn't though.
    If you want to keep being offended for other people though, I won't stop you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiaoShengwu View Post
    So you're going to make a negative response to someone sharing their success story, in an attempt to make them feel bad about finally accomplishing something? shame on you.
    Avoidy does have a valid point too. It is a bandaid for the real issues. Sure lottery is better of the two evils, but it's not even close to touching the underlying issue with housing. I feel the OP came to gloat just a wee bit to the naysayers when it comes to FFA vs Lottery. Which is also a shame because they are just that small 1% of success stories that are out there currently, when there's still thousands still trying to land a house themselves and are being pushed out because of availability. Nothing shameful in pointing out that lottery vs FFA is not the real issue, because it's obvious what is the issue. Sorry you don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    Avoidy does have a valid point too. It is a bandaid for the real issues. Sure lottery is better of the two evils, but it's not even close to touching the underlying issue with housing. I feel the OP came to gloat just a wee bit to the naysayers when it comes to FFA vs Lottery. Which is also a shame because they are just that small 1% of success stories that are out there currently, when there's still thousands still trying to land a house themselves and are being pushed out because of availability. Nothing shameful in pointing out that lottery vs FFA is not the real issue, because it's obvious what is the issue. Sorry you don't get it.
    Thank you. Really rustles my jimmies that this guy didn't even read the rest of my post, which was quite constructive.
    I'm posting here under the (probably faulty) assumption that sooner or later someone who can affect change in this game will read this section and take player feedback into account. The lottery system is terrible. The system before it was also terrible. A lot of people have already pointed these things out. But if someone's literally going to make a new thread that's just like "I think this system is fine because I won," then I think it's necessary to point out the obvious counterbalance so nobody important reads this thread and thinks people are okay with things as they currently stand. As for OP's feelings, I'd assume she wouldn't mind being told that other people had to lose, since she ventured into a forum full of losers to boast about winning in the first place. She's probably too busy having fun with her new house to care about what I post anyway.

    People literally ignore the substance of a post and zoom in on the dumbest stuff, it boggles my mind. More wards. More communication. This is what I want. This is what a lot of other people want too. Okay bye now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    Avoidy does have a valid point too. It is a bandaid for the real issues. Sure lottery is better of the two evils, but it's not even close to touching the underlying issue with housing. I feel the OP came to gloat just a wee bit to the naysayers when it comes to FFA vs Lottery. Which is also a shame because they are just that small 1% of success stories that are out there currently, when there's still thousands still trying to land a house themselves and are being pushed out because of availability. Nothing shameful in pointing out that lottery vs FFA is not the real issue, because it's obvious what is the issue. Sorry you don't get it.
    I have a house and have had one for years and years, so I don't have a horse in this race. But, I agree with you. I see it all the time. People come to gloat that their positive/success story should automatically invalidate everyone else who hasn't had good luck, or has legit complaints. "Well, it was good for me, therefore, it's a wonderful system."
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by XiaoShengwu View Post
    So you're going to make a negative response to someone sharing their success story, in an attempt to make them feel bad about finally accomplishing something? shame on you.
    they should feel bad.

    their win comes at the cost of vastly more people losing out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    they should feel bad.

    their win comes at the cost of vastly more people losing out.
    You must be a crazy Karen in real life if you act this way in a forum. You sound like you'd fit right into a lot of those subreddit Entitled People/I Don't Work Here stories.

    No player should feel bad for winning the lottery. SE should feel bad that a lottery is even necessary because they will not fix the supply problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    they should feel bad.
    I recall, during ye olde days when we had placard clicking, when we lost I (and many others) would cheer the winner (after checking they had stopped clicking). We could cheer, and clap, and pop realm reborn red, we would songbird, and more. Quite a few times I would drop half a million gil on the winner as a housewarming gift if they had been doing the rounds with me.

    A lot of my friendslist comes from the time I spent at the placard, winners who had spent weeks or months with me on property after property who consequentially won and were very happy.

    I would feel happy for their win, even though I just did 2 to 4 hours of prime time clicking and was tired and grumpy and cursing the system and having a sore wrist.

    Why should anyone feel bad that an RNG roll chose them? Be it a mount or minion in an ex, gear they need in a savage, or a house in the lottery.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No player should feel bad for winning the lottery. SE should feel bad that a lottery is even necessary because they will not fix the supply problem.
    Yep.

    The system has been broken for years. Lottery - by it's nature of being low effort - has made the cracks easier to see. And we need to keep pushing SE to sit down and fix it for people.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 06-12-2022 at 09:26 AM.
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