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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    Healers contribution to damage is about the same as a tank, or roughly 2/3 of a dps.
    This is not true. Even the best healer dmg parses (SGE) are completely behind the lowest dmg tank (PLD). Healer damage is not even close to tank damage. And AST is the worst dmg in the game right now by a good margin. The logs are there for anyone to see.
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    Last edited by D6Damager; 06-09-2022 at 10:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D6Damager View Post
    This is not true. Even the best healer dmg parses (SGE) are completely behind the lowest dmg tank (PLD). Healer damage is not even close to tank damage. And AST is the worst dmg in the game right now by a good margin. The logs are there for anyone to see.
    They are close though? Saying "Healer damage is not even close to tank damage" isn't true. Regardless, what is your point? Healers were doing more damage than tanks in ShB, so are you just being pedantic or do you have something to actually say?
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    They are close though? Saying "Healer damage is not even close to tank damage" isn't true. Regardless, what is your point? Healers were doing more damage than tanks in ShB, so are you just being pedantic or do you have something to actually say?
    I said what I wanted to say and I'll say it again just for you... healers are not doing the damage of tanks. That is false. Past expansions are irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D6Damager View Post
    I said what I wanted to say and I'll say it again just for you... healers are not doing the damage of tanks. That is false. Past expansions are irrelevant.
    Okay, got it, you're just in here to be pedantic and provide nothing of value to any discussion. Next time you should save yourself the effort and energy, you clearly need it for other things.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Okay, got it, you're just in here to be pedantic and provide nothing of value to any discussion. Next time you should save yourself the effort and energy, you clearly need it for other things.
    Clearly, you're just here to troll. Take your own advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D6Damager View Post
    Clearly, you're just here to troll. Take your own advice.
    I accept your concession.
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  7. #187
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    What? Looking at The Forbidden Website, Tanks are doing ballpark 5,300 DPS, and healers are doing ballpark 4,600 DPS. I'd argue that's close enough to make saying "Healer damage is not even close to tank damage." completely bunk.

    And besides, you can also take your average clear, theoretically replace the healer dps with ones who aren't dpsing at all, and see clear as day that the group would no longer have the damage to meet the enrage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D6Damager View Post
    I said what I wanted to say and I'll say it again just for you... healers are not doing the damage of tanks. That is false. Past expansions are irrelevant.
    This is P1S.



    And I'll even give you a chance and show a fight where healers actually have something to heal. Here is a P4S part 1.



    Any snarky remarks? Now go back to your cave and stop trying to present your fantasies as some objective truth when they are so easily refutable.
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    This is P1S.



    And I'll even give you a chance and show a fight where healers actually have something to heal. Here is a P4S part 1.



    Any snarky remarks? Now go back to your cave and stop trying to present your fantasies as some objective truth when they are so easily refutable.
    Sure, I'll oblige you since you requested it. I'm sorry you don't understand how to read data; or understand statistics math.
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    Last edited by D6Damager; 06-10-2022 at 03:11 AM.
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  10. #190
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    I noticed I would overheal insanely on my astro.
    Half of the healing spells (Im not referring to the buffing ones) seem unnecessary unless you have a really really crappy team.
    A ton of buttons that keep me busy for absolutely nothing in the end, because as soon as we all get better gear and know mechanics, besides some regens here and there, everything else is just fluff. Its why I started playing mind numbingly easy sage. Dps dps dps, throw instant heal, rinse and repeat.
    Healing was always my favourite activity in every game but now I came to accept Im just a less powerful dps with a healing ability here and there.
    A little part of me died inside when they oversimplified my cards.
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