"Free Company Houses" should not exist, they only encourage "personal/solo FC's"

[Theodric]

ESO is a bad example in this because all there housing is instanced housing. So they have a pretty good reason not to tax it cause everyone has the opportunity to buy any house(they even throw in a free apartment as a quest reward) with in game gold, premium currency, and achievements being the only barrier of entrance for some houses.

Yes, though instanced housing has been a common request over the years. Perhaps instead of introducing apartments and island sanctuaries the focus should have instead been towards providing every player with a sizeable instanced house that is updated with new features over time.

It's arguably Yoshi-P's obsession with a 'neighbourhood feel' that has led to the current predicament. Though each new attempt to 'fix' things only seems to make things worse for those missing out.

I'm lucky enough to own a house myself, though it's disheartening when I have to see my friends miss out on one for their own use.

[Thaciscokidd]

Agreeable stuff.

Totally agree. I still worry about future community reaction to more info on Island Sanctuaries. I honestly hope that as we get closer to 7.0 and farther away from FFXVI DLC cycle that they do introduce instanced housing in some way.

[Shibi]

I still worry about future community reaction to more info on Island Sanctuaries.

Indeed, once they see it's a 2D game from the toybox (as Jojoya once jokingly suggested might also happen)

The level of salt should that come to pass would be historical!

[MilkieTea]

Indeed, once they see it's a 2D game from the toybox (as Jojoya once jokingly suggested might also happen)

The level of salt should that come to pass would be historical!

I honestly would grab some popcorn and sit back. Yoshi P and co. have said from the gate, to not get our hopes up too high and that it likely wouldn't be what we thought it was.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's anything more than a lil garden and minion coraller.

[Thaciscokidd]

I honestly would grab some popcorn and sit back. Yoshi P and co. have said from the gate, to not get our hopes up too high and that it likely wouldn't be what we thought it was.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's anything more than a lil garden and minion coraller.

Yeah something to quell the "We can't garden in apartments." argument provide one less strike for the apartment system as a whole.

[GeminiReed]

It's arguably Yoshi-P's obsession with a 'neighbourhood feel' that has led to the current predicament.

This keeps getting thrown around. Has he reiterated that position recently? I'm reasonably confident that he is painfully aware that the ward system simply isn't living up to their expectations and has been nothing but a source of bad PR since it's been released. The servers and the services they run to manage the interior instances are just barely able to keep up.

I'm not cutting them any slack but I do understand the complexities of the problems they need to solve. Unfortunately they are also ridiculously tight-lipped about development projects until they're ready for release. I'm just hoping they're working on an alternative before housing collapses under its own weight.

TL;DR: I very much doubt the reasons have anything to do with obsession over a pipe dream.

[Shougun]

This keeps getting thrown around. Has he reiterated that position recently? I'm reasonably confident that he is painfully aware that the ward system simply isn't living up to their expectations and has been nothing but a source of bad PR since it's been released. The servers and the services they run to manage the interior instances are just barely able to keep up.

I'm not cutting them any slack but I do understand the complexities of the problems they need to solve. Unfortunately they are also ridiculously tight-lipped about development projects until they're ready for release. I'm just hoping they're working on an alternative before housing collapses under its own weight.

TL;DR: I very much doubt the reasons have anything to do with obsession over a pipe dream.

I imagine it's a little bit of column a and a bit more from column b.

We know that he is a big fan of some of those older school MMOs, including calling Dark Age of Camelot as a fond mmo experience- which has a housing system very very similar to the one we currently have. It wouldn't be, imo, unreasonable to suggest that he liked that system and thus made it again.

That said we also know things like they programmed with fixed memory in mind to optimize better, LONG LONG ago they talked about how things were not set up very dynamically and perhaps this allowed them to work on the PS3 but it causes some challenges too. As we're all aware FFXIV has a fixed limit on a lot of things, including # of account wide items (they've said that they can't make all mogshop purchases account wide due to memory. . . lol).

I very much imagine that housing hasn't been massively improved because of the latter (server issues), but that the beginning of all of this was born out of a personal appreciation of a system he liked. Though said earlier in the thread I do think their original plan would have worked better, if the system was FC housing only. As the major benefit of the system would have been supported by higher population density. If they had an 'easy' ability to make the system meet the player demand I think they would have done it already to be honest. I imagine the Island Sanctuaries might try to alleviate some of the player desire by giving them a homestead like concept, and I think it will work for some players, but hopefully they can slowly upgrade the system to also incorporate housing. I think a -in the meantime- help to that would be doing something like allowing players an inn room space to be build (perhaps using inn rooms you've discovered in game), upgrading the apartment system so everyone can have one, allowing players to connect their apartment to a structure in the sanctuary, upgrading the apartment system further when possible (like second floor).

Of course also said previously but I would have much preferred a Wildstar, ESO, hell, personally, WoW approach- though I would note the WoW system is not really a housing system and so the list is in order (wildstar, ESO, WoW).. though I think the WoW system would be VERY cool if they added customize-able house to the rest of it.. which would increase the rank given to it by quite a bit.