Who knew the 6.15 Omega Quests… (Spoilers)

[sidurgu-12]

Why not? They gave us the results of the still leaves people bitter over it Valentiones day successor vote and who did you choose at the start with Anogg and Konogg at the end of the six weeks of post story from the Nier raid. Still amazes me every sever ended up voting the same way with about the same split for the latter.

those were one off side contents.

[Rayne6665]

The moment Ultima Thule music kicks in . My heaart T__T

[SannaR]

those were one off side contents.

The only way you can repeat this quest is either doing it on an Alt or NG+. How many people do you think are going to do either? And yes I checked for it in the unending journey.

[Naria]

I really hope SE gives us the percentage breakdown on what people picked here at some point.

Do they really need to? The answer is going to end up being "They all were" because that's the 1st option on the list. Most people are just going to click through, even in FFXIV.

[Oextra]

I wonder if people picked Hermes,

Normally this is two sided Emet vs Venat but really the quest points out its 3 sided. Hermes philosophy is in complete odds with Venat AND Emets

I'm new to this section of the forums. Do people still argue for our against either side after finding out about the time travel stuff in EW? Because it's pretty clear that Hermes was the least justified of all since he set it all in motion for a very selfish reason.

[Havenchild]

I'm new to this section of the forums. Do people still argue for our against either side after finding out about the time travel stuff in EW? Because it's pretty clear that Hermes was the least justified of all since he set it all in motion for a very selfish reason.

Accidently set it in motion. But his intention was still for the betterment of his race at least in regards to their hubris in not seeing the value of life (and death) in a vacuum. From his pov, he felt his people disregarded things too easily and quite literally took it for granted since they had very little limitations. You could say him setting Meteion free wasn't entirely in accordance with that but it still comes off as he forcefully tried to teach mankind a lesson about the world and life around them and more importantly to appreciate it, albeit in a roundabout way.

[KageTokage]

All three Ancients had reasons one could sympathize with, but the sheer loss of life and lack of consent involved made their methods contentious.

I think I would've only felt comfortable saying none of them were justified if I didn't agree with what they wanted for their people and found their methods detestable, but it was really only the latter in play, so I opted for "justified in their own ways".

This is really interesting to me tbh…. it paints the Watcher in a whole new light now because we know she consumed the souls of her followers and essentially erased them. The watcher is nothing more than her creation who will probably agree with everything she says so no wonder he says he’s satisfied. It’s interesting though that we now know he was one of her followers because maybe then he should’ve had memories of his og self, in which case he doesn’t know who or what meteion is….which could mean she didn’t tell any of her followers whatsoever.

Honestly, I think the only thing that might give me a little additional peace of mind would be the revelation that Venat's faction knew our whole story and they were perfectly okay with the Sundering and all it entailed with no deception, half-truths, and/or omission of information involved.

It would still leave the uncomfortable reality that the other Ancients had no idea what it was their opposition truly desired, though. There were truths they deserved to know, Hermes and the timeline be damned.

[Rulakir]

I disagree that they could have fit this narrative within the MSQ. I think this particular subject of who was right or whose perspective had bigger weight is too big of a topic to approach within the confines of the story. It's a morally grey topic but one that rather unravels countless corners of the story as a whole. Applying such a divisive element in the middle of the MSQ seems like it would have been distracting and poorly timed for something that should invite self reflection in-character.

I believe they absolutely should have fit this within the MSQ. A large part of the controversy with Venat, in particular, is she's portrayed as a tragic heroine of righteousness and benevolence. It's never once addressed that in actuality she represents everything the Scions have consistently fought against and condemned, instead she's universally treated favorably despite her striking similarities to other villains such as Thordan and Hermes. If inserting logic, consistency, and realism into the story would've caused corners to unravel I'd say that speaks volumes about the narrative they were trying to spin.

You could say him setting Meteion free wasn't entirely in accordance with that but it still comes off as he forcefully tried to teach mankind a lesson about the world and life around them and more importantly to appreciate it, albeit in a roundabout way.

I won't argue that Ishikawa clearly has a different view of Hermes than I do because I don't consider an extinction level event to be any sort of 'first step' for mankind, but as far as what's depicted in the game by the time we meet Hermes he seems driven by spite more than a genuine concern for the betterment of his people.

The whole of EW seems to justify violence if people aren't acting the way you think they should and that is a subject that should have been addressed in more than a side quest not everyone will do.

[Iscah]

The thing with "this should be in MSQ" is that then they need to find a way to weave it into the MSQ.

FFXIV is written with the expectation that if people are into the story, they will play and experience the various sidequests to get the full picture. Being a sidequest doesn't make it insignificant, but lets it sit apart as its own story path separate to the direction that the post-credits MSQ is going.

Also, it inherently requires completion of the Omega raids before the story can play out.

[Iscah]

On answering the question, I opted for "they were all justified in their own way" but would like to have been able to add "...but at the same time they also weren't."

On whether they could keep score of the answers, I don't think they can when it's just a conversation response in a cutscene. The two times we've had a tallied response to player choices (dwarves and Valentiones) it has been trackable through each choice being presented as an individual quest that locks you out of completing the others.