The problem with people complaining that there's no content

[Payotz]

There is a treadmill for pve, but it's optional. Yoshi-P knows that people like to collect mounts, so he makes mounts a reward for grinding the way you do in other MMOs. But he makes it so that grinding that much is not required for the gear treadmill like other MMOs so that people do not feel pressured to grind if that isn't what they really want to do. Doing it with mounts instead is clever.

Yeah! I 100% agree with you, but I think this should expand into Dungeons and 4-man content simply because a lot of people don't like raiding.
4-man content has the capacity to be more variable during the run, so it's a lot less guide reading and more "oh shit let me salvage this pull" which is what's missing in the game imho.

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And unfortunately, this is also only in Extremes. I think mount farms are a good step in the right direction, but it needs a little bit more and needs to be expanded towards Savage raids.

Simply put, the game needs content where skill expression is a thing in game that doesn't rely on FFLogs. Cosmetics for clearing a raid under a specific time, or even just a leaderboard for fastest clear times etc... could be a good step in the right direction.

[Jeeqbit]

And unfortunately, this is also only in Extremes. I think mount farms are a good step in the right direction, but it needs a little bit more and needs to be expanded towards Savage raids.

Actually, the reason extremes are easier is so that they can be farmed. Savage can be a lot less forgiving and sometimes you are glad to be done with it for the week, whereas if Extreme gave you this feeling then you wouldn't feel like doing it 99 times.

[Absurdity]

Actually, the reason extremes are easier is so that they can be farmed. Savage can be a lot less forgiving and sometimes you are glad to be done with it for the week, whereas if Extreme gave you this feeling then you wouldn't feel like doing it 99 times.

Doesn't mean that people wouldn't do it, people run a savage fight 100 times for a fancy number on a site that isn't even officially acknowledged. Hell, people run PotD solo simply for a spot on the leaderboards and that is arguably more of a time investment and frustrating experience than any savage fight.

What? The only people that go apeshit when grind is mentioned are the ones new to MMORPG. Even WoW vanilla was grindy as hell, and it was basically a light version of Everquest. Grind has been a thing in RPGs since forever, and that includes MMORPGs.

Those grinds usually led to some tangible rewards beyond a rectangular piece of text that says "Yay, you did it, conglaturations!". Unless you're really big into achievement hunting a lot of these grinds are pointless busy work that reward nothing and that nobody cares about.

[Payotz]

Doesn't mean that people wouldn't do it, people run a savage fight 100 times for a fancy number on a site that isn't even officially acknowledged. Hell, people run PotD solo simply for a spot on the leaderboards and that is arguably more of a time investment and frustrating experience than any savage fight.

Pretty much yeah. People farm Ultimates over and over again for more totems and weapons, and those fights are harder than Savage. Hell, there are people who have hundreds of totems just because they keep reprogging and clearing them.

Expanding the system to Savage fights won't interfere with the folks who don't care about leaderboards and just want to clear. It's just added optional replayability for people who want to raid more than once a week, without relying on a 3rd party website, and also rewards something that can be viewed in-game, like cosmetics or titles.