So uh, wheres the long lasting content?

[Adamantini]

You make it sound like a 15$ a month sub is the end of the world....

convert this to Reais, I live in Brazil =)

[pikalovr]

ITT: People complaining about problems present in every MMO.

Want to know what endgame is at GW2? You beat the new story, and then you repeat the same maps, the same raids, the same fractals, the same strikes, or just the same activities you did prior for months. That is your endgame content, repeating the same things you've always done. You may have the seasonly festivals, new legendaries to craft, or a new challenge mode for a strike, but you're still doing the same things over and over once those are completed (and depending on your materials and time, you can complete a legendary rather quickly). You can create new characters yes, but you will end up doing the same things regardless, even in leveling and once they're done being leveled.

which is where stuff like POTD, HOH, bozja and eureka came into play. completely different upgrade systems and mechanics alongside relic quests that forced people to at least familiarize themselves with their systems (well for bozja and eureka at least). we're asking for more things like bozja not another dungeon to speed run or savage fight to learn then reclear once a week at a minute chance of getting the pieces we want. we want interesting long lasting content and it's been done before. but the problem is like with bozja after a few months it just kinda died cause there was nothing to do really after DRS. and no incentive to keep playing it really til the second zone came out, and surprise it went back to being used for a few months until people finished that area.

[Kaliesto]

I kind of miss eureka style content only because of the chaos that was involved heheheheheh

[RyuDragnier]

I kind of miss eureka style content only because of the chaos that was involved heheheheheh

We could have it again, if they allow BLU into Eureka. Imagine it, imagine the pure chaos of BLU being unable to use the elemental strength/weakness ring, but being able to use their elemental attacks to hit those weaknesses, and adding special skills from Eureka that add a defense with a weakness. Like learning Flame Armor, which increases Ice resistance at the cost of lowering fire resistance. Or the Nul skills from FFX, which can block a single move of that element (or in this case, for X amount of seconds).

[Jettinson]

I kind of miss eureka style content only because of the chaos that was involved heheheheheh

I initially hated Eureka even with all the buffs stuff since it was brutal doing it blind with no guide but now, it is that kind of enjoyable thing you do when bored: gather up people, spawn monsters that give valuable accessories/key items and so on, help new players etc.
Aside the bots, damn that content still works until now.

Maybe they could add new stuff into those content rather than make a new one considering i haven't seen any talk of a new area/zone.

[IkaraGreydancer]

The only people who have lasting 'content' are ERPers and - in my opinion - people with very low standards.

I prefer to just say those folks have fun in the game. Folks who opt to get every bit out of this game that they can don't have low standards, just different ones

[Kolsykol]

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I think it's pretty reasonable to think that you're a troll considering how you type and your behaviour.
I don't actually believe that tho but I get why people can have that impression, but it's not exactly unusual behaviour online.
Convenient that you supposedly have a second character you're not posting from for some reason that is all blinged out?

I dunno what you're even talking about too I rarely bring up WoW especially not if no one has brought it up before first.
The only reason why I mentioned it specifically here was because it was brought up, I actually considered editing and just saying '' MMO's in general '' because I had an inkling people would say this.
I don't do what you're saying tho it's simply not true it also doesn't detract from the actual point.
I don't care about you '' calling me out '' either, and if you're gonna do that then don't get so personally hurt when someone calls you a troll for behaving like one.

And yes I'd expect someone who talks like this about the Jobs to have at least tried them.
If you have no experience Tanking endgame content then why should I take anything you say about it seriously?
There's a lot of criticism I could bring up but at least it'd be from experience.
And ultimately just because there are negatives and issues doesn't mean people should have these severe overreactions and indulge in hyperbole all the time.

I don't like a job, I don't play it. Simple as that. Leveling it is just to mark it off the checklist. No mount achievement this expansion, as far as I'm aware, so no point on that front. When a job is in a bad state even less of a reason to play it for sure.

Sure, but it'd be silly for you to talk about it if you don't play it especially so confidently.
Whenever I talk about Jobs I don't play I always mention that and make sure that people know I am speaking from a pov of ignorance about it, I've done that about BRD especially because it's the Job I have the least experience with.
The only Job in fact that I've never bothered to level up to the current expansion.

I don't think that NIN for example is in a bad state at all even if you'll see a lot of people mad about the Trick Attack and Mug changes or about some all things considered quite minor issues like Raiju stacks being lost on weaponskills.
There are problems with the Jobs but I also think people are kinda reaching a lot and are being quite hyperbolic about it too.
I didn't like the Kaiten removal either and am hoping for a revert, but I also don't think it somehow ruined SAM and made it be in a bad state.

I mean are all of the Jobs in such a bad state that the OP can't play any of them except SGE?

I prefer to just say those folks have fun in the game. Folks who opt to get every bit out of this game that they can don't have low standards, just different ones

It's pretty standard to AFK in MMO cities lol, I am not into the RP or ERP thing but great for those who are I am sure they get a lot of fun out of it.
A lot of it does seem fun too especially the stuff I've seen on Mikepreachwow's Stream, his FC are great with the RP stuff and it adds a significant amount to his Streams.
I think a lot of them are quite dedicated and do some really cool stuff and it's definitely better than just farting around in Limsa AFK:ing.

I've seen it too with the BRD performances and glam police etc in Limsa before, I don't think that type of content and gameplay engagement is somehow invalid or lesser, if anything I think it's really cool and fun.

[KizuyaKatogami]

irrelevant

How i type has nothing to do with being a troll. It seems like you and others like you simply equate anyone who disagrees with you and your views as being a troll to denote criticism. Again, it doesnt take to level 90 to see how a job is doing. I have numerous jobs at 80 on this character, sorry that i didnt invest more time in it but i do have my other rp characters that i have maining jobs i dont main on this one. the entire healer role is gutted. Tanks are....well tanks. And now even dps jobs are being hit by the same thing healer jobs got hit with years ago. Theres a reason so many people are complaining about it and unfortunately dear, youre in the minority in thinking its okay.

[icemage]

How i type has nothing to do with being a troll. It seems like you and others like you simply equate anyone who disagrees with you and your views as being a troll to denote criticism. Again, it doesnt take to level 90 to see how a job is doing. I have numerous jobs at 80 on this character, sorry that i didnt invest more time in it but i do have my other rp characters that i have maining jobs i dont main on this one. the entire healer role is gutted. Tanks are....well tanks. And now even dps jobs are being hit by the same thing healer jobs got hit with years ago. Theres a reason so many people are complaining about it and unfortunately dear, youre in the minority in thinking its okay.

Everything from you on this forum has been negativity, negativity, negativity. So no wonder people think you are a troll.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Everything from you on this forum has been negativity, negativity, negativity. So no wonder people think you are a troll.

And everything from you has been simping simping simping.Care to explain?