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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    I still wonder why people are really thinking they are entitled to get a Large one.
    It's not entitlement. There is an explicit barrier; raise tens of millions of gil. After that, if you want a large, you should get a large.

    The use of the word "entitlement" has become a tad ridiculous. Entitlement here would be expecting to get a large for nothing, or expecting to have multiple personal larges wherever you want. But if you earn 50 million gil, by jove, you deserve that large.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brygd View Post
    It's not entitlement. There is an explicit barrier; raise tens of millions of gil. After that, if you want a large, you should get a large.

    The use of the word "entitlement" has become a tad ridiculous. Entitlement here would be expecting to get a large for nothing, or expecting to have multiple personal larges wherever you want. But if you earn 50 million gil, by jove, you deserve that large.
    Well Square is saying with their current setup we dont deserve one even if we have 50M. So yes its still entitlement for me. If I would be mean I could also say "unlocked Partyfinder, met MinIlvl - now wheres my free Ultimate Clear". Its the same kind of argument.
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  3. #43
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoehenflug View Post
    This you? Your post history consists to 50% of you saying that you won your mansion in the lottery. I don't take you seriously, sorry.

    Basically you admit that spending either RL or IG cash to gain an advantage is fine for you and enabled by this system. It is NOT fair.

    From your post history, you got another mansion during the relo period. I wonder how. :]

    You are speaking from a place of privilege.
    Using in game gil to get a house is fine, yes. So long as you are just buying the plot from the system itself and not other means. I report those dumb enough to advertise on pf they are selling the house they just won in lotto. I never admitted that buying a house with irl money is ok, maybe take your bias elsewhere. Your jealousy and salt is making you straight up speak falsehoods lmao. People who pay hundreds of dollars for a plot of pixels are nuts to me.

    You were literally complaining about no longer being able to get an advantage and I pointed out that you in fact can. Just because you DONT LIKE how to get that advantage is irrelevant. You were willing to sweep the wards every hour and camp a placard but not farm out some gil? I can make a few million in a day if I bother to try and I am small fry compared to others.

    And since you went to all the bother of snooping in my post history I would think you would have seen how I got my private house, because I described in detail how I got both houses, oh its in this very thread btw lol. Up your snooping game, you half assed it and look stupid. I relocated after I got a ping from a guildie about a large being open. I never bought the house from another player, since that is clearly what you are implying :P Once again you are just salty and attacking me without a shred of proof.

    I speak from a place of privilege yes, I also speak as a person that dealt with the same system as every other person. I camped the houses, I swept the wards, I relocated, I reported the bots to no avail, I bid in the lottery and I went to all the extra effort of hand leveling my alt to get access to airships and subs in my FC. If you can't be bothered to go work for that advantage you lament losing, not my problem. Making gil is FAR less effort than all of those other things.

    I have said in just about every housing related thread at some point that everyone should be able to get a house, supply being so scarce is a joke. But the system we have at the moment is the BEST it has ever been. You failed to get a house under the previous system? But you want that one back? Makes sense. Rather ask for instanced housing options than say placard clicking is the way to go. I guess I value my health more than you do.
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  4. #44
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    I still wonder why people are really thinking they are entitled to get a Large one.
    It's perfectly understandable for people to be angry that an advertised game feature is unavailable to them when they otherwise meet the requirements. They have the money, they have the grand company rank but they just cannot get the house because none are available due to the system SE has chosen to adopt. I mentioned in another thread in general about seeing on FF's own site a picture showing all the diff things ffxiv had to offer, housing was there and was a big thing for me and pushed me to play the game. So imagine my annoyance at finding I would need to camp a placard in hopes of beating bots and other players against a random hidden timer. It was the most miserable experience I have ever had in this game. I learned more about the system and roughly what times people would pass out and houses would become buyable on average and got my house. Then lucked out on relocating to a large. But I would never want a new player to suffer that system.

    I much prefer lottery, set a bid and forget till results day comes. Much better for your health and mental. But it still does nothing to address the core issue as many say, there are not enough houses. Yoshi P making houses scarce by design to me is just a poor design choice. Housing is fantastic casual content, events give housing items, they are a great form of self expression. Limiting access to that just seems silly to me.

    Still we get people who rather than taking their anger out at devs will lash out at other players. They are salty at not winning the lottery and miss the 'good times' of placard clicking and sweeping wards every hour like a second job because MAYBE just MAYBE they would have won that way. If you didn't already win that way, what on earth makes them think it would suddenly work in their favour idk.
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  5. #45
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    Give it a rest already. The housing system was never intended for everyone to have a house and they are never going to change that. They want the housing sectors to be communities focused mostly on FC's. Its been like that since they introduced housing. Personal/instanced housing is never going to happen.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Give it a rest already. The housing system was never intended for everyone to have a house and they are never going to change that. They want the housing sectors to be communities focused mostly on FC's. Its been like that since they introduced housing. Personal/instanced housing is never going to happen.
    Their design choice is a negative experience for most people trying to interact with the system. So I should hope they stop being so stubborn and change something to meet player demand. Regardless, there have been a few things in this game that were never going to happen and yet.. they still happened. So fingers crossed
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  7. #47
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    They need to add the maximum number of bidders for one plot. If someone is late for that, they need to find another one. I am sure most have option #1, #2, #3 when it comes into houses anyway. This also kinda give the people who are early benefit, not in the terms of winning chance but only in participation. Without limits, people will flock to the most desirable plot available. Anything below 1% chance of winning is literally zero. At that point you might as well try your luck at Casinos and buy a real house if you win.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    blabla
    ##

    Oh please, spare me, I'm not the one that has his recent post history filled with 'I won a mansion'. I could literally pull up 10 quotes from the last month. I'm not jealous, I just find your self-absorption sad, really, and it's been hardly avoidable.

    Sorry, I didn't dig around in your post history and create a thesis about your character. I actually found more weird stuff, but I refrained from digging deeper. Also, I found all the quotes in rather recent topics around here, so that wasn't even neccessary.

    So you got a ping from a guildie, sure. Sorry if I raise an eyebrow considering your attitude and being so open about planning a shell, knowing about hacks, etc.

    It's not only the money that is hindering people to create shells. It's also education and moral, I'm pretty sure you once knew about that. ;]

    People like you profit from the system, knowing fully well the lotto is beneficial for Shells and RMT. Still, people like you proclaim the lotto is fair deluding less educated people into thinking that, while you create Shells to snatch a personal FC mocking the plebs.

    The relo advantage was largely so that people with a cottage could upgrade or sidegrade, with a chance of that every hour. Without requiring 800m to compete.

    The advantage now lies with a) rich players b) morally bankrupt people.

    Anyway, I'm done here.
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    Last edited by Hoehenflug; 06-05-2022 at 08:45 AM.

  9. #49
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoehenflug View Post
    ##

    Oh please, spare me, I'm not the one that has his recent post history filled with 'I won a mansion'. I could literally pull up 10 quotes from the last month. I'm not jealous, I just find your self-absorption sad, really, and it's been hardly avoidable.

    Sorry, I didn't dig around in your post history and create a thesis about your character. I actually found more weird stuff, but I refrained from digging deeper. Also, I found all the quotes in rather recent topics around here, so that wasn't even neccessary.

    So you got a ping from a guildie, sure. Sorry if I raise an eyebrow considering your attitude and being so open about planning a shell, knowing about hacks, etc.

    It's not only the money that is hindering people to create shells. It's also education and moral, I'm pretty sure you once knew about that. ;]

    People like you profit from the system, knowing fully well the lotto is beneficial for Shells and RMT. Still, people like you proclaim the lotto is fair deluding less educated people into thinking that, while you create Shells to snatch a personal FC mocking the plebs.

    The relo advantage was largely so that people with a cottage could upgrade or sidegrade, with a chance of that every hour. Without requiring 800m to compete.

    The advantage now lies with a) rich players b) morally bankrupt people.

    Anyway, I'm done here.
    What hacks do I know about? Exactly? Please do tell. Or is it more nonsense you pulled out your arse?
    People make their own fc for pretty obvious reasons, mine was to gain access to subs and airships as no FC would let their general members access this content. If private housing allowed me to do so I would not have needed my own FC.
    Money is the gate to housing now, not how long you are willing to waste your life at a placard and sweeping wards. I am fine with that. I would still prefer that we all had a way to get our own house, ykno like I said in my first response.

    RMT is more awkward with the lottery since at least personal plots are no longer sold so easily and FC's now require a time commitment to transfer. So you cry at RMT when it was worse before and benefitted them more. You just want things to suit you, you want the advantage you liked and not this more recent advantage, I get it.

    I mocked no 'plebs'. If you are feeling like a pleb that's not on me. I have made dozens of posts advocating more housing availability. I literally just made one before your response. You choose to ignore it all and be salty. Sorry you're miserable. But yes ofc you are done here, you have nothing of value to say. Bye bye
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    What hacks do I know about? Exactly? Please do tell. Or is it more nonsense you pulled out your arse?
    People make their own fc for pretty obvious reasons, mine was to gain access to subs and airships as no FC would let their general members access this content. If private housing allowed me to do so I would not have needed my own FC.
    Money is the gate to housing now, not how long you are willing to waste your life at a placard and sweeping wards. I am fine with that. I would still prefer that we all had a way to get our own house, ykno like I said in my first response.

    RMT is more awkward with the lottery since at least personal plots are no longer sold so easily and FC's now require a time commitment to transfer. So you cry at RMT when it was worse before and benefitted them more. You just want things to suit you, you want the advantage you liked and not this more recent advantage, I get it.

    I mocked no 'plebs'. If you are feeling like a pleb that's not on me. I have made dozens of posts advocating more housing availability. I literally just made one before your response. You choose to ignore it all and be salty. Sorry you're miserable. But yes ofc you are done here, you have nothing of value to say. Bye bye
    Didn't you say you report cheating players? That's all I meant really.

    You, a solo player, is not supposed to access those features. Why do you think SE has put up all these obstacles? It's an abuse of a greyzone, much like tax evasion. A greyzone a lot of people won't enter for different reasons, which is why the greyzone works in the first place.

    At least former shell owners made up a sob story to justify owning multiple houses, but this recent development of people flaunting their shells is just brazen.

    RMT sellers just sell their throwaway accounts along with the houses and have been preparing for this, just as you did.

    You belittled less wealthy players on multiple occasions.

    I'm super fine, ty for your concerns.

    Bye. :]
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    Last edited by Hoehenflug; 06-05-2022 at 09:26 AM.

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