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  1. #41
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    Does anyone know how the Japanese community react to this? It's clear as day that the English community is not happy and won't stop voicing their frustrations for the housing system. But what about the Japanese? Even though it pains me to say this, but if there's a chance that the devs might do SOMETHING about this, it's gonna be the pressure that the Japanese put on them. Not us.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinder View Post
    Does anyone know how the Japanese community react to this?
    Basically no reaction like here.

    Top 5 threads in their housing section

    #1: 103 page megathread : currect discussion FCFS is better than Lottery
    #2: FCs should only get 1 bid per FC not (say) 9 (2 pages)
    #3: Please adjust FC/Personal ratio (not even 1 page, only 7 posts, low like count)
    #4: Can we have more large plots and less small (3 pages)
    #5: My neighbor put up the Gingerbread! Can we please have the capability to change someone else's house-skin (real hot take! 11 pages)

    It's a fun hot take, and has split them a bit:

    We would please like to ask you to consider this

    Request:
    We request a function to visually change the exterior of the house owned by another player to the default of the ward (Mist type in the case of Limsa Lominsa). If possible, it would be ideal if it could be turned on and off individually for each house in the same area, rather than all at once.

    Reasons for request:
    I worked hard earning my money, carefully previewed and confirmed that there were no horrible houses such as chocobos and mogs around, and finally got my house after winning the lottery. I was happy to have a nice house, but the other day I came home to see the

    Candy House

    Honestly, I don't like it because it destroys the landscape. We are considering moving again, but in the end there is a possibility that it will just happen again at the new location, so moving is not a solution. (I guess it's an grief-attack to force you to vacate the land if they want it.)

    I understand that you are busy, but thank you for your consideration.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Basically no reaction like here.

    Top 5 threads in their housing section

    #1: 103 page megathread : currect discussion FCFS is better than Lottery
    #2: FCs should only get 1 bid per FC not (say) 9 (2 pages)
    #3: Please adjust FC/Personal ratio (not even 1 page, only 7 posts, low like count)
    #4: Can we have more large plots and less small (3 pages)
    #5: My neighbor put up the Gingerbread! Can we please have the capability to change someone else's house-skin (real hot take! 11 pages)
    The gingerbread along with some other skins really are just eye sores imo, lucky me none in sight of my houses.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    The gingerbread along with some other skins really are just eye sores imo, lucky me none in sight of my houses.
    It has a commanding view over all of Shirogane in the S30/60 spot:

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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    The gingerbread along with some other skins really are just eye sores imo, lucky me none in sight of my houses.
    It's cute in a way by itself. It works in Shibi's screenshot because the other 3 plots that can be seen are empty.

    But agreed it's an eyesore when mixed in with other skins. It's a little too "vibrant" colorwise in comparison. I was doing one of the "Where the Heart Is" quests with a new alt and a Gingerbread skin stuck out like a sore thumb in the flyover cutscene as I entered a ward to continue the quest.

    It's a good example of why many of us would be happier with an instanced system for houses. We wouldn't be forced to see housing skins that disrupt our views.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's a good example of why many of us would be happier with an instanced system for houses. We wouldn't be forced to see housing skins that disrupt our views.
    The Effigies are likely worse, they creeeeeeeaaaak.

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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Basically no reaction like here.

    Top 5 threads in their housing section

    #1: 103 page megathread : currect discussion FCFS is better than Lottery
    #2: FCs should only get 1 bid per FC not (say) 9 (2 pages)
    #3: Please adjust FC/Personal ratio (not even 1 page, only 7 posts, low like count)
    #4: Can we have more large plots and less small (3 pages)
    #5: My neighbor put up the Gingerbread! Can we please have the capability to change someone else's house-skin (real hot take! 11 pages)

    It's a fun hot take, and has split them a bit:
    What is an FCFS, full contact furry sambo? Certainly that... lol.

    I assume FC, not sure what the FS is though.

    Also curious do they mention instanced housing systems often? For western gamers this is fairly common concept at this point, I feel, but I wonder if it's even a thought.

    I remember Jojoya telling me that I should be more specific on what the heck I meant by instanced housing (well not me specifically but those using it), a long while ago, and I wonder if for the Japanese-centric experience if that might be the case. I still feel like it shouldn't be for SE specifically, as I feel they should be actively learning and not playing isolation (a major mistake), but /shrug... maybe they were right lol.

    I don't hear much hate on the system when people translate it and maybe that's just because they didn't mention it (and I didn't really care to look), but at least here it's extremely common to see people either actively asking for said system changes (this specific ward system itself is part of the problem), or are exactly describing those said systems and they just didn't know they exist lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's cute in a way by itself. It works in Shibi's screenshot because the other 3 plots that can be seen are empty.

    But agreed it's an eyesore when mixed in with other skins. It's a little too "vibrant" colorwise in comparison. I was doing one of the "Where the Heart Is" quests with a new alt and a Gingerbread skin stuck out like a sore thumb in the flyover cutscene as I entered a ward to continue the quest.

    It's a good example of why many of us would be happier with an instanced system for houses. We wouldn't be forced to see housing skins that disrupt our views.
    Y-you- DON'T UNDERSTAND, I /NEED/ YoU to See My HoUSe oF CaNdY MAScoTs.

    Also agreed, though.

    I think it's great that SE has offered all these cool variations, and in a general statement I think there are a lot of great objects for housing... but yet, I really personally don't want to see a specific subset of those. This stuff is why HOAs were created lol. People making junkyards out of their front lawn.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 06-03-2022 at 03:16 PM.

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domdalom View Post
    There are more housing spots available in ONE SINGLE district of the FC locked district in the new housing zone as compared to the entire server on Malboro. This is beyond ridiculous. They needed to open up the FC zones this round when they could see this has been a UTTER FAILURE. Are they waiting for people to quit because of this?
    Well, all the FC's are fighting over large and med houses right now.
    Next cycle they will start picking up the smalls.
    Cycle after that? Patch time.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    What is an FCFS, full contact furry sambo? Certainly that... lol.
    First Come First Serve - it's the term used on the forums (and you will see it used fairly commonly still in some threads) to mean placard clicking.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    First Come First Serve - it's the term used on the forums (and you will see it used fairly commonly still in some threads) to mean placard clicking.
    Do the Japanese have the horror stories that we have?

    I honestly couldn't in good conscious keep the placard system if I had the choice after reading what happens under it. That said I can also see how the lottery system can also be frustrating, but I'd rather take the punch to the leg than the shot to the head. My imo at least, one is soul crushing the other is just annoying.

    Thanks for the answer, weirdly I've never really seen (or perhaps paid attention) to that. Some LIFO FIFO type stuff going on there lol.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 06-03-2022 at 03:38 PM.

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