The Ancients still deserved better, after everything

[KizuyaKatogami]

another big difference between the ancients and the ironworks was, the ironworks worked for a "past" they woudl never experience, a world they knew they would NOT profit off, they knew it couldpotentialy lead ot their own end, to being reduced to never haivng existed in the first place

The people who finished the timemachinethingy(not necesserly the people who started it), where, 100% selfless in the regard in that they worked for a world, a future, and a past, they know they could never experience themself.


They doomed potentially millions of not billions of people, but they also doomed themself, they knew it, and they accepted it.


The ancients on the other hand, where willing to doom others(the "new life" whatever that may be) to create benefit for themself
yes they "sacrificed half their numbers" but what, pray tell, was their intention later? to get those souls back, nothing would have been "sacrificed" in the end outside of unwilling, third party "new life"
The ancients acted solely for their own benefit(and as much as that extended to the "star" in their arrogance of being "the shephards of the star")completly intending to reap a reward from their work.
thats the big difference between the ironworks in the eighty umbral, and the Ancients, the end intend of "profit"

The new life could be plants and animals for all we know. Youre going to say the ancients were wrong for sacrificing them for actual people? Because in that case i guess the WoL is wrong for summoning primals in eden just to kill them and restore the empty. Or Yshtola is wrong for summoning nixies just to send them into the void and let them be killed etc.

[ZeraSkiratea]

The new life could be plants and animals for all we know. Youre going to say the ancients were wrong for sacrificing them for actual people? Because in that case i guess the WoL is wrong for summoning primals in eden just to kill them and restore the empty. Or Yshtola is wrong for summoning nixies just to send them into the void and let them be killed etc.

the problem with the "animal and plant" idea is that there where people within the Ancient society who disagreed with sacrifcing the "new life", so it had to at least have some degree of "status" i doubt even the most hardcore people in the ancient society would consider plants to be worthy to "hand over the star"(or whatever similiar phrase was used) to, it had to be either sentient, or potential sentient in the future fo rthe idea of people disagreeing with the sacrifice on that scale ot make sense