Things are getting worse.

[Necrotica]

Just seems like everything is falling apart.

Housing.
PVP.
Class design.
Cosmetics/Customizations.

There is a lot good in this game. But the scales are tipping. Hope they get their shit together.

[Kes13a]

while the bot situation isnt getting better... I dont see how the sky is falling everywhere else....

could some things be improved, always, but I wouldnt say its all "falling apart"

[Krotoan]

There are a lot of complaints people have about the current state of the game..

However from the perspective of someone who has stuck with the game for 10+ years.. it's not particularly bad or some sort of event horizon.


Sky ain't falling chicken little, voice your complaints by all means.. but lets not foretell the end of the world.

[Thaciscokidd]

I don't think everything is totally falling apart but I do wonder if the 14 team is being overly taxed by Squenix. IIRC they are also helping with 16 as well.

[Espon]

Housing has always been bad.

More people PvP now than previously. They already admitted that they overbuffed Black Mage, but that can't be the reason why "PvP has fallen apart."

Class design is a matter of opinion. I enjoy playing most classes, but I'm not everyone, and people can want different things from the game. I prefer simplicity so I could focus more on what's happening in a fight, where as other people want many buttons to press. Could things be better? Sure, there's always room for improvement.

Cosmetics/Customization is falling apart? What does this even mean? If you're talking about ear issues with Miqo'te and Hrothgar then I agree. On the other hand, they just unlocked gender requirements for a bunch of gear, and probably will do it for more later, which has greatly increased glamour options.

[hagare]

[Deveryn]

Just seems like everything is falling apart.

Housing.
PVP.
Class design.
Cosmetics/Customizations.

There is a lot good in this game. But the scales are tipping. Hope they get their shit together.

All of these things have actually improved.

With housing, there's a lot of salt from botters who would have loved to snag up all the new spots right away. While it's an improvement, there's still that unfortunate problem of the system still being as it is. A revamp would be nice, but it doesn't seem likely unless they can get away with not disrupting current homeowners.

PvP is much improved. It was a clunky mess before. This MOBA style update fits well, even with Frontline. I'm looking forward to trying out Rival Wings when it comes back.

Class design: I'll be as vague as you and say it's all improved. I leveled everything to 90 and see nothing falling apart.

Cosmetics... what even? /skip

[Raoabolic]

There are a lot of complaints people have about the current state of the game..

However from the perspective of someone who has stuck with the game for 10+ years.. it's not particularly bad or some sort of event horizon.


Sky ain't falling chicken little, voice your complaints by all means.. but lets not foretell the end of the world.

It's called slowly boiling the frog, lol. Remember when they started cutting a dungeon per patch for "polish". I do.

[Rolder50]

All of these things have actually improved.

With housing, there's a lot of salt from botters who would have loved to snag up all the new spots right away. While it's an improvement, there's still that unfortunate problem of the system still being as it is. A revamp would be nice, but it doesn't seem likely unless they can get away with not disrupting current homeowners.

PvP is much improved. It was a clunky mess before. This MOBA style update fits well, even with Frontline. I'm looking forward to trying out Rival Wings when it comes back.

Class design: I'll be as vague as you and say it's all improved. I leveled everything to 90 and see nothing falling apart.

Cosmetics... what even? /skip

Not really.

Housing: Demand still FAR outstrips supply. Thinking back to that other post where the guy collected data from their singular server where there were 2000+ people interested in a house who were unable to get one. On a single server.

PvP: I actually agree that PvP is better, it has some actual life now for starters. I really want them to turn Rival Wings back on, though....

Class Design: Has trended towards oversimplification over the past couple expansions; the latest on the chopping block having been Samurai and to a lesser degree Ninja. Healers being ignored for actual years.

Cosmetics: They tend to re-use item models a lot. From what I understand, this expansion has had the most recycled models of any expansion thus far. Not to mention Vieras and Hrothgar consistently being ignored.

And I have my own thing to add on;

Story: The story this expansion has been a little lackluster outside of the fanservice-y moments. They went the time travel route which almost always makes a story way more convoluted and nonsensical. The 500 page thread elsewhere on the forum complaining about it is a testament to this. I'm also not a fan how they said that they were going to give us some new stories in 6.1+ only to give us story about the Thirteenth with an almost exclusively Scion cast. I love em but they are getting old.

All in all I'm getting Wrath into Cata vibes from this. For reference, World of Warcraft hit their peak sub count in Wrath, but into Cataclysm and onwards, they started to go too far into simplification and metrics pandering, which degraded the game over time into the limping husk it is now. I'm beginning to see the same degradation start here and it does worry me.

[Krotoan]

It's called slowly boiling the frog, lol. Remember when they started cutting a dungeon per patch for "polish". I do.

I remember when I had to stick my retainer in the selling halls to sell stuff and you had to search each individual retainer one by one to buy things.

I also remember RECENTLY that they improved the old MSQ quests and dungeons to be BETTER and actually engaging. There was severely LESS housing available and less variety in the housing. Some jobs had pointless "buffs" to maintain that nearly every boss had a mechanic that killed them and in between pulls it also stressed people out to pull as fast as possible to maintain and no class had any way of maintaining them out of battle. We have even more variety of glamours than ever before with quite a few gendered pieces being unlocked. We have more plates and soon to be more glamour space. Not to mention PVP is probably being engaged in the most it has in years. ..


So no.. this is not measurably worse or closer to some ultimate boiling point. There are always improvements possible.. but it isn't like the game has degraded.