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    Player Necrotica's Avatar
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    Dolly Derringer
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 90

    Things are getting worse.

    Just seems like everything is falling apart.

    Housing.
    PVP.
    Class design.
    Cosmetics/Customizations.

    There is a lot good in this game. But the scales are tipping. Hope they get their shit together.
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    while the bot situation isnt getting better... I dont see how the sky is falling everywhere else....

    could some things be improved, always, but I wouldnt say its all "falling apart"
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    could some things be improved, always, but I wouldnt say its all "falling apart"
    I mean, Hrothgars asked for improvements for so long. What we got were the devs lying to us and begrudgingly updating the patch notes to include something we've been asking for years.

    It's not "falling apart", but it's definitely getting worse. Just because it could get worse doesn't mean it's not a bad situation that needs addressing.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    There are a lot of complaints people have about the current state of the game..

    However from the perspective of someone who has stuck with the game for 10+ years.. it's not particularly bad or some sort of event horizon.


    Sky ain't falling chicken little, voice your complaints by all means.. but lets not foretell the end of the world.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    There are a lot of complaints people have about the current state of the game..

    However from the perspective of someone who has stuck with the game for 10+ years.. it's not particularly bad or some sort of event horizon.


    Sky ain't falling chicken little, voice your complaints by all means.. but lets not foretell the end of the world.
    It's called slowly boiling the frog, lol. Remember when they started cutting a dungeon per patch for "polish". I do.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    It's called slowly boiling the frog, lol. Remember when they started cutting a dungeon per patch for "polish". I do.
    I remember when I had to stick my retainer in the selling halls to sell stuff and you had to search each individual retainer one by one to buy things.

    I also remember RECENTLY that they improved the old MSQ quests and dungeons to be BETTER and actually engaging. There was severely LESS housing available and less variety in the housing. Some jobs had pointless "buffs" to maintain that nearly every boss had a mechanic that killed them and in between pulls it also stressed people out to pull as fast as possible to maintain and no class had any way of maintaining them out of battle. We have even more variety of glamours than ever before with quite a few gendered pieces being unlocked. We have more plates and soon to be more glamour space. Not to mention PVP is probably being engaged in the most it has in years. ..


    So no.. this is not measurably worse or closer to some ultimate boiling point. There are always improvements possible.. but it isn't like the game has degraded.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Dionysius's Avatar
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    Zeack Crosse
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    Masamune
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    It's called slowly boiling the frog, lol. Remember when they started cutting a dungeon per patch for "polish". I do.
    Dungeon was cut for Eureka, 4 large maps with tons of bosses and Baldesion Arsenal. Dungeon was cut for Bozja and Daldaria normal+savage. Not "polish".
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    There are a lot of complaints people have about the current state of the game..

    However from the perspective of someone who has stuck with the game for 10+ years.. it's not particularly bad or some sort of event horizon.


    Sky ain't falling chicken little, voice your complaints by all means.. but lets not foretell the end of the world.
    Going with this.

    I can see some of the problems people mention, but like housing for example- it's been worse and unless they change the system itself it will, full stop, never not be bad for what some people want out of it (myself included). I understand the snaffu with lottery wasn't great but I still strongly consider such a system as a win due the alternative worse situation.

    Similar words to the other bullet points, specifically on the concept of "getting worse". Of course I have caveats, not always sunshine and rainbows.. but I don't think we are on some new precipice of the end.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 06-02-2022 at 06:21 AM.

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    Thaciscokidd's Avatar
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    Alfimi Einst
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    Golem
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I don't think everything is totally falling apart but I do wonder if the 14 team is being overly taxed by Squenix. IIRC they are also helping with 16 as well.
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    Espon's Avatar
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    N'kilah Razhi
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Housing has always been bad.

    More people PvP now than previously. They already admitted that they overbuffed Black Mage, but that can't be the reason why "PvP has fallen apart."

    Class design is a matter of opinion. I enjoy playing most classes, but I'm not everyone, and people can want different things from the game. I prefer simplicity so I could focus more on what's happening in a fight, where as other people want many buttons to press. Could things be better? Sure, there's always room for improvement.

    Cosmetics/Customization is falling apart? What does this even mean? If you're talking about ear issues with Miqo'te and Hrothgar then I agree. On the other hand, they just unlocked gender requirements for a bunch of gear, and probably will do it for more later, which has greatly increased glamour options.
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