Is the WoL actually good though?

[Cleretic]

I can't remember a time where WoL purposefully picked a fight without even trying to parley or negotiate in the MSQ aside from dealing with people like Zenos or Valens, vengeful primals like the Warring Triad, or beasts like Bismarck or the Lightwardens, who won't respond with anything else. Heck, in Ronka the heroes try to call a truce to get out of a death trap, only for Ran'jit to go straight for murder.

WoL doesn't go on mass killing sprees to satisfy their Avatar either. They kill enough beasties, wanted bandits, and people trying to kill them first anyways.

Yeah, the WoL never goes spoiling for a fight when one isn't necessary. It's just that most of the time a fight breaks out, because at the end of the day the central gameplay of FFXIV is based around combat so that's usually how the quest design breaks up the walls of text.

The line of thought that the WoL is by nature violent and looking for a fight falls apart with how many times things don't fall to violence even when conflict is happening. Crafting has a lot of perfect examples: there are SO MANY crafting quests where you end up at odds with people who could quite easily be shut up with a swift punch, and in most cases they definitely deserve it on a karmic level, but no violence ever breaks out. Almost like, no, the WoL does not go into situations where fighting isn't necessary and still chooses to; if they have another option, they will take it. And sometimes, that other option is 'fishing' and the WoL happens to have a rod in hand. Scholasticate story's also got some great examples, where nary a weapon is drawn and the WoL still winds up helping.

In fact, probably the best MSQ example of this is 2.55. There's actually a lot of people who chose violence that day, and the WoL was not one of them (much to the chagrin of certain players). Which is a good thing, because that day went pretty badly for everyone who did choose violence. I feel like, if the WoL was shooting for a fight to the degree that Kizuya describes, they probably wouldn't have made it to Heavensward alive and un-assassinated-for-regicide.

[Vyrerus]

In fact, probably the best MSQ example of this is 2.55. There's actually a lot of people who chose violence that day, and the WoL was not one of them (much to the chagrin of certain players). Which is a good thing, because that day went pretty badly for everyone who did choose violence. I feel like, if the WoL was shooting for a fight to the degree that Kizuya describes, they probably wouldn't have made it to Heavensward alive and un-assassinated-for-regicide.

The WoL would have chosen to fight back, but a condition to enter that hall was disarming yourself. They weren't strong enough to resist unarmed, and thus were forced to flee. It's actually brought up in one of the DRK quests where the WoL literally resents being disarmed and being unable to fight back.

[Rannie]

The WoL would have chosen to fight back, but a condition to enter that hall was disarming yourself. They weren't strong enough to resist unarmed, and thus were forced to flee. It's actually brought up in one of the DRK quests where the WoL literally resents being disarmed and being unable to fight back.

In the hindsight of the WoL of course they would have fought back, yet you do gotta admit that at that point in time they weren't really expecting to be accused of regicide against the Sultana or that the Sultana was going to flop down to the ground because of "poison" granted some of us could see it coming a mile away when it happened but I don't really think the character did. But if they had known then yeah most likely they would have fought back if they were even allowed to even have a glimpse of Nanamo with their weapon on. (It's not like Gandalf at the entrance to the Halls of King Theoden pulling out a 'his staff is his walking stick cause he's too damn old' rofl)