Stop complaining. You wanted this.

[HeyMcFly]

What is unbearable is when game devs in their stubbornness keep a system on life support(limited ward housing) nearly after 10 years of it not working for the vast majority of players in terms of access.

Every 'solution' that SE has tried to fix limited ward housing with has made access worse for the majority of players.

1. Ward housing consumes more server resources than fully instanced housing.
2. Adding new wards is not a scalable, long-term solution as long as server populations keep increasing.
3. RMT housing sales are profitable because of the arbitrary, artificial scarcity that SE imposed with limited ward housing.
4. SE had initially stated that there would be no auto-demolition. Auto-demolition is a consequence of not being far-sighted.
5. Yoshi P wants a 'neighbourhood feeling' but I think a lot of players barely see their neighbors in wards.
6. Having a fully instanced housing system in the form of improved apartments or an entirely new system, alongside the existing ward housing seems to be the best compromise to make multiple groups of players happy.

This ^

Neighborhoods are a waste of resources - Yoshi-P has got to understand, he can't be THAT dense. Neighborhoods are not packed or crowded or even active unless you have an RP venue.

Most Players want their own house/ yard.

Apartments and FC rooms are too limited (and they should be evenly prices since neither offer better perks.)

A fully instanced system, that allows a player to fully customize and make their own personal paradise, that also allows friends to visit is the answer.
OR he can keep messing up and giving us more wards that are mostly dedicated to FCs.

FFXIV is polished enough that when there is an issue, it's a giant GLARING issue- like housing.

[Jojoya]

Apartments and FC rooms are too limited (and they should be evenly prices since neither offer better perks.)

Apartments do offer something that FC rooms don't - permanency. You cannot lose an apartment for any reason short of intentionally clearing it out and relinquishing it. You can lose a FC room if you are removed from/leave the FC.

That's more than worth the extra 200k for an apartment.


But otherwise, agreed - the instanced housing system needs some major improvements if SE expects apartments to be the "in lieu" substitute for those unable to get a house due to lack of supply.

[TwistedTea]

if you're so desperate to get a house, move to new datacentre. You should see empyreum on Materia lol. 3 houses per ward occupied on Bismarck and even less on Zurvan.

This argument comes up often. In the past, I've suggested to people to move to less populated servers within their data center so they can still use world visit to visit their old servers.

But this is not easy for everyone, especially if you've been established long enough in server's community. Also asking people to give up their FCs, Linkshells etc

For an EU/NA player moving to an OCE server will not just be giving up social ties within their current data centre but most likely a worse playing experience in the form of latency.

In the first place, why do we even have to make such a suggestion to people?

Because of the fundamental problem of supply caused by limited ward housing.

[Shibi]

Because of the fundamental problem of supply caused by limited ward housing.

And yet, if housing were instanced a lot of people chasing a floppery ticket wouldn't bother. No FOMO then.

It's just because it's rare that so many people want it. The flopperies biggest fault will always be that non-invested players end up winning then working out that decorating is time consuming, expensive, and difficult - and that gardening is boring and not the road to riches they imagined - and that will cause more never used houses.

[Avoidy]

if you're so desperate to get a house, move to new datacentre. You should see empyreum on Materia lol. 3 houses per ward occupied on Bismarck and even less on Zurvan.

You heard it here first, folks. Just ditch all your friends and move to a dead DC so you can sit in your brand new house that nobody visits.

[Solarra]

I certainly did not ask for this. I foresaw most of the current issues (not the horrible bugs, I admit), and I expected a lot of unhappy people to be the result. And here we are.

It gives me no pleasure though.

I cannot understand why the devs are so determined to make the ward system work when even the most mathematically challenged person can see that the wards are never going to deliver enough houses for those who want them. Instanced housing alongside the wards would be a decent solution. And until we get a solution, I am going to continue to complain.
There are other games that have managed housing so much better. Why our devs seem set on putting band-aids on this flawed and broken system is something I just cannot understand.

[ameliaw]

And yet, if housing were instanced a lot of people chasing a floppery ticket wouldn't bother. No FOMO then.

It's just because it's rare that so many people want it. The flopperies biggest fault will always be that non-invested players end up winning then working out that decorating is time consuming, expensive, and difficult - and that gardening is boring and not the road to riches they imagined - and that will cause more never used houses.

To be frank, considering how low effort the decoration for the average house I see around is, I agree with you lol

Still, instanced housing should be a thing.

[Padudu]

And yet, if housing were instanced a lot of people chasing a floppery ticket wouldn't bother. No FOMO then.

It's just because it's rare that so many people want it. The flopperies biggest fault will always be that non-invested players end up winning then working out that decorating is time consuming, expensive, and difficult - and that gardening is boring and not the road to riches they imagined - and that will cause more never used houses.

I want it BECAUSE I like decorating lol. I spent enough copium on deco'ing my friends house and using their garden to play around with :P

[Jojoya]

And yet, if housing were instanced a lot of people chasing a floppery ticket wouldn't bother. No FOMO then.

It's just because it's rare that so many people want it. The flopperies biggest fault will always be that non-invested players end up winning then working out that decorating is time consuming, expensive, and difficult - and that gardening is boring and not the road to riches they imagined - and that will cause more never used houses.

Players want houses for a lot of difference reasons, not just scarcity.

But scarcity does drive the demand to get it NOW instead of waiting because if they don't get it when it's available, they may not be able to get it when they're ready for it.

To be frank, considering how low effort the decoration for the average house I see around is, I agree with you lol

Still, instanced housing should be a thing.

Not everyone is a creative genius. That doesn't mean they still don't enjoy their house regardless of what you might think of how they decorated.

It's the houses without decoration that should be a concern. That shows demand is being driven by a feature that's available through housing without the owner necessarily wanting the house itself. Move those features to other sources so no house is required and demand for houses goes down, allowing other players who want a house for its own sake to get one.