What is with the constant mistreatment of the Garlean story?(6.1 Patch spoilers)

[aveyond-dreams]

Does the goofy moment make sense and is consistent with what is going on at the given moment in the story? No? Then that's where the problem lies. The expansion about the literal end of the world was more of a joke than an epic finale. Not every Japanese game is incapable of sticking to the subject matter in the way Endwalker was unable to.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Uh ... is FF14 your only Japanese game or media you have ever seen? This is not a FF thing, it's a Japanese/anime thing. They always have these kind of goofy thing irregardless of how serious the story is. I had watched anime, read manga and novel, live action move that have the core story 100x more serious than FF14 and the characters still gonna have their silly moments. Heck, even if you take something like Warhammer 40k and give it to a Japanese developers, they will make even a lord inquisitor or primach have their goofy moment. That's part of the culture of the medium.

Complain about goofy moments in a Japanese game is like complaining why water make you wet.

FF games are japanese games, yet they know when to have funny moments and when not to. 14 does not know how to handle this distinction and thus it just takes away from the story. Not to mention other ff games also have consequences for the main cast so the light hearted moments actually feel like more of a relief. Whereas nothing ever happens to the main cast to warrant needing any sort of relief in this game.

[Allegor]

Ngl, I never cared much about them, but even I can tell Garlemald/Garleans got the Ala Mhigo treatment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[kpxmanifesto]

I'm also not sure why the poster in question is trying to gatekeep what is and isn't a 'valid take'. If she wishes to agree to disagree? Fair enough!

Some people are just on a high horse. I've dealt with more than a few people like this on these forums in the past and the best course of action is to point out the fallacious argument and move on. Trying to debate with erroneous logic gives a false air of legitimacy to it.

[Kozh]

It's better than just one long 50 hour slog of bad things happening.

There's never been a 50 hour slog of bad things happening because the structure of this game naturally won't allow it. Every time we unlock new area, it's basically resetting the tension and gave us a breather.

And "breather" =/= "comedic relief". I'm not opposed to comedic relief, but it needs to be appropriate. The scions got aether sickness when we first go to thavnair? Good comedic relief. Playing with lopporit after killing zodiark? Weird as hell. G'raha eating burger when we have freaking final days? Not as weird as the lopporit one, but still weird regardless.

Plus, I think people's problems with the g'raha scene is how the devs prioritize "useless" scene like that over things that matters more, such as the details of the sundering etc. If the purpose is to give a "breather", they could just give us the WoL taking a break eating in their room then get joined by the scions, then fade to black (no custom animation, minimal dialogue).

[anhaato]

If the devs put resources towards a proper cutscene showing the sundering instead of 10 minutes of Venat on a political tirade there'd probably be only 300 pages in that msq criticism thread instead of the 500 it's at now

[Raoabolic]

Uh ... is FF14 your only Japanese game or media you have ever seen? This is not a FF thing, it's a Japanese/anime thing. They always have these kind of goofy thing irregardless of how serious the story is. I had watched anime, read manga and novel, live action move that have the core story 100x more serious than FF14 and the characters still gonna have their silly moments. Heck, even if you take something like Warhammer 40k and give it to a Japanese developers, they will make even a lord inquisitor or primach have their goofy moment. That's part of the culture of the medium.

Complain about goofy moments in a Japanese game is like complaining why water make you wet.

I know right, people keep needlessly complaining about Gundam Seed and Destiny. It's anime, don't worry about what the IP already established. :^)

[ElizanderNorisse]

Well I just hope that we’re going back to Garlemald in 6.2. I’m sure we’ll help Jullus & the twins with whatever they’re going up against in there.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

I mean, the off-screen made sense.

Zenos is a bad Ruler and a monster. What did you think was going to happen after he killed his father? By the time we got there he was already settled in and he was letting the other power hungry ones fight it out so that only the strong could lead... Assuming that they could kill him too.

Regula wasn't shafted. His story was fully told.

[MagicPeanut]

I just assume they'll bring Garlemald's story back a bit later and they're currently setting it up for now. I remember thinking back when the Warriors of Darkness were introduced that it was completely random and had nothing to do with any part of the story at that moment. Playing through SB even reinforced this thought I had. "Why did those bunch of emo randoms get a whole story patch?" was essentially what I thought. Imagine my shock when ShB was released! I instantly felt bad in assuming theses characters were gonna be one-off and boring. I'm glad they took the time to set them up as far back in HW. So, I'm assuming they'll (hopefully) do the same with the Garleans, but only time will tell.