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  1. #1821
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikatsu View Post
    and I am pretty sure we long since went over that line with the various screenshots and whatnot in this thread, particularly where we have linked showing the skeletons, changing of Hrothgar head shapes, etc. hell, the "please reuse my signature" full of hats we cannot equip without mods hasn't elicited this much panic.
    It's not panic. It's frustration. A feeling we're all very much allowed to express, given the absolute garbage state that Square Enix has left the situation in. A frustration Square needs to listen.

    What IS panic is you going around NOT HELPING and telling people to go get banned like lemmings off a ledge.
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  2. #1822
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    ah yes, the "if we just be quiet and play by their rules, sooner or later they're bound to give us parity" approach that has worked so well so far. if ya'll are all going to cower this much over so little, just get it over with and switch to Lalafell.
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  3. #1823
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikatsu View Post
    ah yes, the "if we just be quiet and play by their rules, sooner or later they're bound to give us parity" approach that has worked so well so far. if ya'll are all going to cower this much over so little, just get it over with and switch to Lalafell.
    Hey, you're allowed to have your opinion and approach. My approach is indeed to play by their rules, and make everyone notice that people playing by their own rules doesn't work and call them out on their own lies. I just think it's fine to be mild and reasonable before losing marbles. And trust me, if you've read page 181, I've lost A LOT of marbles in this thread.

    Also no. I want to play Hrothgar. I want to play what I want to play. And if you or SE has any problem with it, then that's your personal problem.
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  4. #1824
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    At this point I don't have much more to say beyond the fact that I continue to be disappointed by both the initial and the ongoing design designs for both Hrothgar and Viera. Seriously a huge shame.
    (7)
    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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    And the silence continues.
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  6. #1826
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    At this point I don't have much more to say beyond the fact that I continue to be disappointed by both the initial and the ongoing design designs for both Hrothgar and Viera. Seriously a huge shame.
    i'm personally pretty happy with female Viera now that we're getting hairstyles. I would hope that once those issues have been put on a par with other races they start to address the hats and helm issues with at least some of the iconic head gear to start.

    Horths are still suffering though and that's not good at all.
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  7. #1827
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
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    In general, all we want is to get noticed by the developers. We want some transparency, we want them to say 'yeah we can look into doing this'. We want them to give us an answer. There's no need for rioting in the game, on social media or anything like that. Please don't do anything that puts your account at risk. If this TRULY ruined the game that much for you, you would have unsubbed with 6.1's release. But the fact that people are still wanting to discuss this and holding onto the threads of hope that we have given ourselves show that there's still, albeit a slim chance. We can mock SE, heckle SE and hurl insults at developers all we want. But that won't change a thing, it makes us look ungrateful for the few things that we do have. It's not uncommon for SE to do stuff without telling the fans. Both to their detriment and advantage.

    Yoshida. Any Community Reps and any GMs who are reading this thread. If you so happen to be. Us players are here, we have problems with your game and it's your job to fix them. We want to be respectful to you. And in turn we do expect that respect to be returned to us. We understand that you aren't some perfect being like some people on the server insist you are. Mistakes are made and mistakes can be rectified. And when these mistakes are pointed out. It is your job as the provider of a product to rectify the mistakes.

    If you do not fix them... Why should you get so frustrated when players go out of their way to modify the game, or even just overlay game files in order to rectify the mistakes that you are neglecting to fix?
    Is there not the double standard of the BLM fix and the Ultimate fix, hell the housing fix being fixed mere days after they were pointed out. Yet we have been left in the dark for almost... What... Almost 100 days. That's a third of the year... When are we going to get any sort of update that isn't just you regurgitating the lies that were thrown at us in the patch notes reading? Because trust me. As this thread shows.

    None of us believe that, And almost everybody here has seen that what Yoshida is claiming is 'difficult' has been done, by people who haven't even finished their degrees.

    Whether this is a case of gross incompetence, spaghetti code that was left untouched because of laziness or a developer who left and left his horrid code without a translation. This needs to be fixed, because this thread is proof that the players are unsatisfied.
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    Say it with me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Modders care more about Viera, Hrothgar, Highlander and Roegadyn than the devs do.

  8. #1828
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    I don't think they're '' frustrated '' by the mods, as Yoshi-P has said before just don't advertise it.
    When Yoshi-P was talking about third party mods he wasn't talking about that, they just don't want to open up the flood gates by officially endorsing anything because then they'll get overflooded with the same morons who think that Discord is banned who will start pushing things and make absurd comparisons etc.
    Considering the mental breakdowns people had about the last time he talked about addons I have absolutely zero faith whatsoever that people would be responsible about this at all and I don't blame them one bit for not wanting to officially endorse any addons.
    Apparently people can't be expected to behave like adults about it so it's better to just say that nothing is endorsed.
    If they came out and said that one addon was okay people would start pushing it and it'd soon derail into '' well why isn't this okay '' and it'd go on and on.

    Something I think should be asked and brought to their attention in the next QnA is that instead of reeee:ing, ask if they have any plans to update this along with the graphical overhaul that is coming.
    It's a good opportunity to go in and actually solve a lot of this since they'll already be touching up models and I have to imagine have a dedicated team working on it specifically.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 05-29-2022 at 02:06 AM.

  9. #1829
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    And the silence continues.

    Getting close to almost 200 pages and we only Gota vague reply from the community manager... ugh.
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  10. #1830
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    Getting close to almost 200 pages and we only Gota vague reply from the community manager... ugh.
    Don't lose hope. As I recall, in the male viera and female hrothgar posts, we didn't get a concrete answer from them, and even so, we got what we wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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