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  1. #101
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    It's not always been fine xD Do you not remember that time they needed to play with tools measuring server ticks to do their opener? An opener which didn't outDPS Summoners? Or how they've even lost their status of having high AoE to SMN?

    It is the class that's been largely the same across every expansion and it being a selfish DPS class always means it does high damage.
    like someone above said, being a selfish dps class doesn’t always mean you do high damage. It only means that if you’re blm, otherwise mch would be topping charts. As for the measuring server ticks, that got fixed no? Meanwhile how long has mch had ping issues? Exactly. You can bring up any problem that blm MAY have had at some point, and i guarantee you i can bring up 5-10+ problems for other jobs that have existed for 2+ years without a fix.
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  2. #102
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    *Looks over at MCH, lying dead of the floor in a puddle of it's own spit*

    Y-yeah, right...
    FFXIV Devs: MCH who? Is that a healer? Thought we deleted those from the game.
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  3. #103
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    MrJPtheAssassin's Avatar
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    Rose Blackstorm
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    It's not always been fine xD Do you not remember that time they needed to play with tools measuring server ticks to do their opener? An opener which didn't outDPS Summoners? Or how they've even lost their status of having high AoE to SMN?

    It is the class that's been largely the same across every expansion and it being a selfish DPS class always means it does high damage.
    Well, pve BLM's will never have to worry about smn out dpsing them ever again since we got the largest nerf this expac and never will be good again. Just because no one in the dev team knew how to handle smn or even bother to play smn so they just decided its best to just make it the easiest job in the game and screw all the long-time smn mains over with their sorry excuse for a rework. I love the fact my long-time main job is a shallow husk of itself and not fun to play anymore but hey at least I get to look at a blinding light show right? As an smn main, I always felt like the middle child of the caster bc yoshi p favoritism towards blm. Smn current has no place in the casters role since its dps is the same as an rdm's but rdm is better at utility and rezzing than smn. All smn has a super easy rotation with no skill ceiling to speak of. Great job design, guys
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    It's funny that some memes got Yoshi-P to respond so quickly, while some other issues are left in the dust.
    I know right? PvP is getting the kind of rapid response feedback that other features in this game could only dream of. There's a 5 year old thread on this very page asking for more variety on hempen sets. They were "looking into it" five years ago and nothing's changed. The current housing system is a disaster. Players told SE on their forums all month to open more wards for individual purchase. Nothing changed and now people are abandoning their FCs to make solo shell companies as a workaround. SAM mains in the DPS forum have lit it on fire begging for their job to be reverted, and as far as I know they haven't heard a word.

    But BLM's pvp power is in doubt? Shut it down lads. Players are complaining because it's too good? Nerfs coming next week, lads.
    It's incredible. Maybe everyone else should learn from this and just make memes about their problems.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    FFXIV Devs: MCH who? Is that a healer? Thought we deleted those from the game.

    Listen to what they say though. % of players matters to get buffs. MCH are very common in my matches at least.


    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    I know right? PvP is getting the kind of rapid response feedback that other features in this game could only dream of.

    It doesnt have to be the head guy. But this is the speed of responses this game should have. This is the kind of interaction some people pretend that SE has with players. When it is mostly cherry picked stuff that adds nothing to the game and a new commercial for a plushie/album.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 05-28-2022 at 05:01 AM.

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Listen to what they say though. % of players matters to get buffs. MCH are very common in my matches at least.
    I guess this is the way. It seems they pay attention when less people are playing the jobs. Might also be why AST is getting a "rework" in 6.2 that lots of people are apprehensive about, while WHM, which has always been popular despite having a playstyle lots of its own players dislike, continues in the same direction.
    In this context, the solution becomes fairly intuitive: if you're unhappy with your job, don't even bother writing about it here; simply play something else.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    BLM's pvp power is in doubt? Shut it down lads. Players are complaining because it's too good? Nerfs coming next week, lads.
    It's incredible. Maybe everyone else should learn from this and just make memes about their problems.
    Well, it helps that it was fueled by what I would lovingly describe as a temper tantrum (but I like to embellish, just a little), which subsequently needed to be corrected in order to save face for their fans.
    Sadly, being PVP had very little to do with this rapid response.
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  8. #108
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    It's funny that some memes got Yoshi-P to respond so quickly, while some other issues are left in the dust.
    Kinda fucked up, isn't it? Players have been asking for clarification on stuff for years now. I would love to see them put out these kinds of posts on general PvE Job Design, talking about how they view Healers, the Kaiten issue, homogenization and simplification, etc. But nah, we never get that, at most we'll get some bullshit line from Yoshi-P in a Live Letter about how he and his team take feedback seriously and to post on the Forums where they'll totally hear us. Sure as shit doesn't feel like it though, and the lack of communication from the Job Design team sucks. If the Community Team is reading this post, pass this feedback to the dev team: MAKE MORE LODESTONE POSTS DISCUSSING JOB ISSUES. Seriously, communicate with the players. You have ways of communicating with the Forums and the Dev Blog, actually talk to the players and let them know your thought process on Job changes, no more of this "please understand" bullshit.
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  9. #109
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    ''please understand''
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  10. #110
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    Ryuuko Souha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beddict View Post
    Kinda fucked up, isn't it? Players have been asking for clarification on stuff for years now. I would love to see them put out these kinds of posts on general PvE Job Design, talking about how they view Healers, the Kaiten issue, homogenization and simplification, etc. But nah, we never get that, at most we'll get some bullshit line from Yoshi-P in a Live Letter about how he and his team take feedback seriously and to post on the Forums where they'll totally hear us. Sure as shit doesn't feel like it though, and the lack of communication from the Job Design team sucks. If the Community Team is reading this post, pass this feedback to the dev team: MAKE MORE LODESTONE POSTS DISCUSSING JOB ISSUES. Seriously, communicate with the players. You have ways of communicating with the Forums and the Dev Blog, actually talk to the players and let them know your thought process on Job changes, no more of this "please understand" bullshit.
    I agree with this so much. I've been around since the game launched the first time and this has always been my #1 wish. It was okay at first because they did something no other company did, but now most companies do it better. My phone game does live letters and developer notes better.
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