Can we stop punishing shield healers for playing together?

[IceBlueNinja]

You're missing the point.

AST/WHM barriers are exclusive to cooldowns. Even though Divine Benison and Celestial Intersection are only 30 second cooldowns, they're single target only. Meanwhile Neutral Sect is a limited duration effect once every 120 seconds that comes at the opportunity cost of MP and DPS.

SCH/SGE barriers, while generally garbage healing tools in 95% of circumstances, can be used during any GCD. Were they to stack together, could enable them to more aggressively brute force their way through prog and give SCH/SGE comps a significant advantage in learning new fights for the first time.

There's an argument that could be made for how important it is to balance around specifically prog vs general casual gameplay experience since the majority of the community doesn't really care about prog, and thus an alternative solution should be found, but it really doesn't matter as it stands because Adloquium/Succor and E. Diagnosis/E. Prognosis are some of the assiest heals on each healer's respective kit, beating out only Physick and vanilla Diagnosis/Prognosis. The inability to overlap barriers shouldn't matter because you really shouldn't be using them outside of the most dire or niche scenarios, and if you are in that position, only 1 healer should realistically need to do so anyway, which should automatically go to SCH because their barriers are better.

e dig crit and alco crit is the same potency what are you talking about:? actually sage may even be stronger on single barriers because zoe+physis and krasis = is mass heal increase potency, If your taking aclo crit to use dt (which imo waste so much time) thats the only slight reason sch aoe shield maybe better to e prog else its actually whack and do remember panima and hamia not only does some migi but they also burst heal for the remaining stacks something sch other wise pathetic shields dont do. sch only had 2 abilities to boost its heal to only what 30% which is illum and disipate ? while zoe which is 50% physis which is 10% and krasis is 20% =80% increase heals that is a major difference.

I really think that spread crit alco via dt is so over rated, without recitation crit alco sch barriers is garbage sorry. Even noct ast could outbeat crit alco also dt shields and finally sages shields are instant while sch has to be casting theirs. I use tons of crit and det on my items and I give some pretty meaty party shields as a sage with e prog so idk something sounds off here.

[ty_taurus]

e dig crit and alco crit is the same potency what are you talking about:? actually sage may even be stronger on single barriers because zoe+physis and krasis = is mass heal increase potency, If your taking aclo crit to use dt (which imo waste so much time) thats the only slight reason sch aoe shield maybe better to e prog else its actually whack and do remember panima and hamia not only does some migi but they also burst heal for the remaining stacks something sch other wise pathetic shields dont do. sch only had 2 abilities to boost its heal to only what 30% which is illum and disipate ? while zoe which is 50% physis which is 10% and krasis is 20% =80% increase heals that is a major difference.

I really think that spread crit alco via dt is so over rated, without recitation crit alco sch barriers is garbage sorry. Even noct ast could outbeat crit alco also dt shields and finally sages shields are instant while sch has to be casting theirs. I use tons of crit and det on my items and I give some pretty meaty party shields as a sage with e prog so idk something sounds off here.

Idk what to tell you. Your math is whack, and I can't fix that. Crit Aldo is much stronger than E. Prognosis and that's not a "my opinion" thing. It's a statistical fact, but play how you want. It's not like being a suboptimal healer matters in any meaningful way.