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  1. #11
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    Yeastyloins's Avatar
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    Yeasty Loins
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    Famfrit
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravor View Post
    Isnt it samurai the on of the main dps in world first DRS ultimate?
    Again it's not the damage it does. It's the feel of it. There were many people who avoided DRK before the 6.1 changes despite the fact it was the highest DPS tank.
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  2. #12
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    It's funny to me how many SAMs were content with the mess they made with SAM in EW until Kaiten was taken away. Yet, the skill in all actuality made zero sense to have.

    While I don't favor its removal, especially if the reason was button bloat; I don't favor it's return either. Especially without addressing the other, far more glaring issues SAM has had even before EW.
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  3. #13
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    Zarkovitch's Avatar
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    they nerf management/reward of the job to buff the entry to be alright on it. It feels like drk all over again. I feel like they are decided with it and stick with it.
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  4. #14
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You typo'd 5.58.

    Oka namakiri was a mistake.
    Honestly... yeah. I would indeed rather revert the Ikishoten change and the second Tsubame-Gaeshi charge (just replacing it with TG not being cancelled by following actions, merely replaced with each new Iaijutsu). Bring back the 50-Sen Senei/Guren. Add Guren-esque linear AoE fall-off damage onto Shoha itself via trait. And at least have Fuga mastery buff Fuga to the same capacity as Fuko so we can choose between the circular and conal AoE per our personal preference.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 05-21-2022 at 11:06 AM.

  5. #15
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    It's funny to me how many SAMs were content with the mess they made with SAM in EW until Kaiten was taken away. Yet, the skill in all actuality made zero sense to have.

    While I don't favor its removal, especially if the reason was button bloat; I don't favor it's return either. Especially without addressing the other, far more glaring issues SAM has had even before EW.
    I just hit 82 on samurai and immediately asked myself why shoha 2 is a thing while I tried to find somewhere on my hotbars to put it. Then I realized that the Devs were out of ideas and thus it was born.

    I didn't even realize that they changed the cost of Guren and Senei. I haven't played too much Sam in EW until recently and I knew the Kaiten removal made Kenki worthless, but with the changes to the two big kenki skills to 25 kenki there actually is no management of it at all.
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  6. #16
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Honestly... yeah. I would indeed rather revert the Ikishoten change and the second Tsubame-Gaeshi charge (just replacing it with TG not being cancelled by following actions, merely replaced with each new Iaijutsu). Bring back the 50-Sen Senei/Guren. Just Guren-esque linear AoE fall-off damage onto Shoha itself via trait. And at least have Fuga mastery buff Fuga to the same capacity as Fuko so we can choose between the circular and conal AoE per our personal preference.
    Yeah, honestly the 6.0 changes were terrible but people only got upset over kaiten for some reason.
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  7. #17
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    Maxilor's Avatar
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    Pocket Prince
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 57
    The Angry SAM threads are overflowing out of the DPS Forums!

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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  8. #18
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    Acece Ace
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    Diabolos
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    Samurai Lv 90
    It does feel weird for how many qol updates they brought in endwalker to Sam they also ripped out many of the things I enjoyed about it.
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  9. #19
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    Yandere-chan's Avatar
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    Character
    Elenore Baker
    World
    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 90
    People prefer different levels of complexity in their rotation. It's literally impossible for them to please everyone equally at the same time in regards to this. There is not an objectively better route. While some people have expressed their grievances with this iteration of the Samurai kit, you have to keep in mind, those who like the changes are not going to make threads about it. You can't just base how well a change is being received due to complaints on forums with this being so.
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  10. #20
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    FIX HEALS
    FIX AST
    FIX SAM
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