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    White Mage Pig ability too OP

    Please allow us to break that stupid pig ability with PURIFY. Also allow purify to ACTUALLY give CC immunity afterwards. Whitemage Miracle of Nature NEEDS a nerf badly!!!!
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    At the very least, change it to a timed debuff that activates the polymorphism effect and make it counterable by guard, like it is for deep sleep.
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    Here's just a few thoughts, I have yet to see anyone saying balance is perfect- and I have yet to see any perfectly balanced PVP game: While we're at it, let's see, why don't we also nerf warrior's LB because of how it affect my guard- but wait - there are ways to handle that if we're smart.

    oh, but samurais are ridiculous if I hit them with chiten up that's just crazy too - but , on the other hand, I don't HAVE to hit them then OR of course i could CC them .. so maybe it ISN't so OP.

    Oh, and about that white mage/ what if I silence them , or LOS them? Or focus them. or stun them. No pig, no problem.

    So maybe stop jumping to the nerf bat all of the time, where do you stop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latarma View Post
    Oh, and about that white mage/ what if I silence them , or LOS them? Or focus them. or stun them. No pig, no problem.
    What is always with this dumbass just run away 4Head statements? First of all, a lot of fight area is flat open, you are slowed, you cannot guard or activate def cd, can't heal. Neither can you coordinate a silence into burst with randoms - which believe it or not could also be cleansed by the WHM - and you can't focus them either because they literally
    have self heal plus extra heal plus guard.
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    Last edited by drtasteyummy; 05-24-2022 at 06:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post
    What is always with this dumbass just run away 4Head statements? First of all, a lot of fight area is flat open, you are slowed, you cannot guard or activate def cd, can't heal. Neither can you coordinate a silence into burst with randoms - which believe it or not could also be cleansed by the WHM - and you can't focus them either because they literally
    have self heal plus extra heal plus guard.
    Kinda. The most effective way of mitigating sheep is to force it out in a scenario where it won't kill you. Force the WHM to use it to peel, etc. Sheep is very deadly when it's like you say - you get sheeped and then heavied/bound in the open so you can't LOS, etc. The best way to avoid that happening is to not put yourself in a position where it *can* happen. If the enemy team has a WHM and they haven't used sheep yet, you have to be careful when it comes to initiating. Sometimes you can just accept that one of your guys is going to get gibbed, though - if they blow everything to kill one person, it's still entirely possible to win the 4v5 anyway. But that's going to be something you're unlikely to see in disorganized solo queue games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post
    What is always with this dumbass just run away 4Head statements? First of all, a lot of fight area is flat open, you are slowed, you cannot guard or activate def cd, can't heal. Neither can you coordinate a silence into burst with randoms - which believe it or not could also be cleansed by the WHM - and you can't focus them either because they literally
    have self heal plus extra heal plus guard.
    i do see your point and i was replaying to someone else i just forgot to quote them but yes all in all it's a learning curve on what each class can adn can't do
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Here's just a few thoughts, I have yet to see anyone saying balance is perfect- and I have yet to see any perfectly balanced PVP game: While we're at it, let's see, why don't we also nerf warrior's LB because of how it affect my guard- but wait - there are ways to handle that if we're smart.

    oh, but samurais are ridiculous if I hit them with chiten up that's just crazy too - but , on the other hand, I don't HAVE to hit them then OR of course i could CC them .. so maybe it ISN't so OP.

    Oh, and about that white mage/ what if I silence them , or LOS them? Or focus them. or stun them. No pig, no problem.

    So maybe stop jumping to the nerf bat all of the time, where do you stop?
    you make vailed points yes but as dragoon i have no cc abilities or silence skill, sould the game give me to be fair so i can do that to mages or no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latarma View Post
    you make vailed points yes but as dragoon i have no cc abilities or silence skill, sould the game give me to be fair so i can do that to mages or no?
    i don't know, would you like to give up some of your instant skills, or leech skills, or damage increase debuff on your target to get that? Sounds fair to me. Or maybe trade some of your extra debuff removal + buff skills . Must be nice to get a speed boost and the ability to remove bind and heavy, maybe you'd rather get a silence? Whatever you think is fair.
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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soltari View Post
    Please allow us to break that stupid pig ability with PURIFY. Also allow purify to ACTUALLY give CC immunity afterwards. Whitemage Miracle of Nature NEEDS a nerf badly!!!!
    It's fine. Purify *does* give you immunity to CC covered by Purify afterwards, too.
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