Public Discussion: Community Feedback - Is it being heard?

[Striker44]

There's quite a few unanimous voices, like the state of healers and the limited races, being outright ignored if not insulted. The devs indeed just "know better".

"Unanimous" among a small group of people who happen to post on the forums in a thread dedicated to a particular complaint does not mean anything "unanimous" for the actual playerbase.

[MilkieTea]

I didn't lol, but I'm not sure what kind of point you're making to me specifically.

I said I feel they've listened to me, specifically, and other feedback from others I've seen, that or I have made a lot of specific guesses that came about later. Some I can easily imagine are coincidence, but I feel too many to all be as such.

I've never made any feedback for Kaiten.... Is your point they don't listen to feedback because of those things you listed?

I think they're a bit upset and not reading things 100% clearly. It makes sense, they're super passionate about this which is cool! But it sucks because they're arguing points that were never made and it makes conversations quite hard to follow XD.

[Soge01]

Still waiting to hear something about the Samurai feedback. Guessing we'll have to wait till 6.2 gets announced.

[BrokentoothMarch]

"Unanimous" among a small group of people who happen to post on the forums in a thread dedicated to a particular complaint does not mean anything "unanimous" for the actual playerbase.

Oh, I'm sorry your own arbitrary, obscure, and ultimately meaningless standard for unanimity is unmet. By that logic, why complain about anything? Shut it all down. Nobody's allowed to complain until we've achieved 100% hivemind agreement because we haven't met... Squints "Striker44"s personal belief of what constitutes enough complaining people that has gone for nearly a decade.

Do excuse my ignorance, Your Majesty.

I'd hope my contempt shined through. You don't see, hear, and take part in multi-year complaints just to see this drivel and be okay with it.

[Kes13a]

Oh, I'm sorry your own arbitrary, obscure, and ultimately meaningless standard for unanimity is unmet. By that logic, why complain about anything? Shut it all down. Nobody's allowed to complain until we've achieved 100% hivemind agreement because we haven't met... Squints "Striker44"s personal belief of what constitutes enough complaining people that has gone for nearly a decade.

Do excuse my ignorance, Your Majesty.

I'd hope my contempt shined through. You don't see, hear, and take part in multi-year complaints just to see this drivel and be okay with it.

its hardly arbitrary that the percentage of the player base that actually posts on the forums is VERY small in terms of the actual game playerbase.

you can complain here, and spent every day for the last 10 years complaining here.. and you are one person. I would say that there are maybe, at best, 1000 people that regularily post here. and thats likely a lot more than actually do. since you are obviously brilliant given your contemptuous response, I will let you do the math to see how much of the player base that actually is.

[BrokentoothMarch]

its hardly arbitrary that the percentage of the player base that actually posts on the forums is VERY small in terms of the actual game playerbase.

you can complain here, and spent every day for the last 10 years complaining here.. and you are one person. I would say that there are maybe, at best, 1000 people that regularily post here. and thats likely a lot more than actually do. since you are obviously brilliant given your contemptuous response, I will let you do the math to see how much of the player base that actually is.

It's arbitrary when you consider most the playerbase doesn't engage here. When they see what they don't like in the game, they simply leave. Oh how quickly we forget that it's by the dev's admission that this is the truth. Yet it vanishes from you people's memory the moment it runs counter to praising the game unending.

"Just you". I can't navigate the forums for you. If you're truly so ignorant as to the common complaints that stretch as far back as Stormblood, I can only applaud your density and hope you continue to enjoy this game on your own grounds. As long as you have yours, nobody else matters, after all. We've had one of the largest losses of players after the WoW exodus with people dismissing it as "There's always a drop in players after enough time in expansions." True enough, but am I to believe that returning to the normal lull after an at least doubling of our populations is normal? I'd hesitate to call this the death of the game, but clearly something is wrong if it pushes away borderline the same amount of people and some change we got in the exodus.

[MilkieTea]

It's arbitrary when you consider most the playerbase doesn't engage here. When they see what they don't like in the game, they simply leave. Oh how quickly we forget that it's by the dev's admission that this is the truth. Yet it vanishes from you people's memory the moment it runs counter to praising the game unending.

"Just you". I can't navigate the forums for you. If you're truly so ignorant as to the common complaints that stretch as far back as Stormblood, I can only applaud your density and hope you continue to enjoy this game on your own grounds. As long as you have yours, nobody else matters, after all. We've had one of the largest losses of players after the WoW exodus with people dismissing it as "There's always a drop in players after enough time in expansions." True enough, but am I to believe that returning to the normal lull after an at least doubling of our populations is normal? I'd hesitate to call this the death of the game, but clearly something is wrong if it pushes away borderline the same amount of people and some change we got in the exodus.

I hesitate to ask, lest I draw your ire but... where are you getting these numbers?

[DixieBellOCE]

If feedback was actually looked at, Eureka wouldnt be a bot infest RMT farm 24/7.

Square enix really don't care, they are just making $$$$

[ASkellington]

Considering that it took Six Point Twelves Dammed One for them to change DRK's Living Dead to what it is now after having complaints since Heavensward.

My answer is no.

[Knot_D]

I mean they heard the complaint of Bunny outfits for males before for 3. Years. since Gold Saucer released with some excuses like "It's so weird for males wearing them". Also Thavnairian Bustier, it took them 6. Years. to hear the complaint to make it unisex (with how disappointing male's thavnairian tights is a boxer instead is panties , but oh well they finally made it unisex...)