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    And thus you can work with Bob to figure out what is going wrong - is he just misreading the timings, is he attacking the wrong target, is he just getting stunned too often or whatever else might be going on. None of that is visible unless you see it DURING the fight.
    By screaming,. abusive epithets, obscenities, public humiliation..oh and lets not forget the old and very timeworn excuse

    "You won the roll for the mount but xyz did more dps than you so he gets the mount"

    Dont tell me this doesnt happen , it does. I am immensely amused by the utter denial I see in these threads that parsers dont contribute to toxic and abusive behaviour.

    They do.

    Yes, some people use them for bad reasons... but we don't just... remove everything that could ever be used for bad purposes because of that
    Tell me, when you told Bob about his dps, did he ask you first? Or do you shove it in their faces? Did they ASK you for your feedback? Did they ASK you to discuss their dps with them?

    No, they didnt. But you poke your nose into it and do it anyway, and you dont CARE whether or not they want to hear it you will tell them anyway.

    You are not getting an official ingame parser. it is not happening. FULL STOP. All the whining and jumping up and down wont change a thing.

    Accept it. The answer is a FLAT NO. The end.

    But only checks your performance and can't be shared in game.
    "Post your dps numbers to be allowed into our group or else"

    No.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 05-19-2022 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    By screaming,. abusive epithets, obscenities, public humiliation..oh and lets not forget the old and very timeworn excuse

    "You won the roll for the mount but xyz did more dps than you so he gets the mount"

    Dont tell me this doesnt happen , it does. I am immensely amused by the utter denial I see in these threads that parsers dont contribute to toxic and abusive behaviour.

    They do.



    Tell me, when you told Bob about his dps, did he ask you first? Or do you shove it in their faces? Did they ASK you for your feedback? Did they ASK you to discuss their dps with them?

    No, they didnt. But you poke your nose into it and do it anyway, and you dont CARE whether or not they want to hear it you will tell them anyway.

    You are not getting an official ingame parser. it is not happening. FULL STOP. All the whining and jumping up and down wont change a thing.

    Accept it. The answer is a FLAT NO. The end.



    "Post your dps numbers to be allowed into our group or else"

    No.
    I think they are talking about in a static setting to which if you are playing in a static and you are the reason they are not clearing the fight due to suboptimal play and you do nothing nor take advice to improve, you are fundamentally just as toxic for wasting the time of other people just as much as somebody who trash talks somebody on their dps. You can absolutely tell somebody where they need to improve without sounding like you're off your meds. Only casual rats talk like that.

    Also that scenario never happens in PF. If that happens in a static then sure, that's on the static. But PF? No shot. Literally a bannable offense.
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    Last edited by Yeastyloins; 05-19-2022 at 12:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    "Post your dps numbers to be allowed into our group or else"

    No.
    oh I forgot to add.
    They should add a rule that says no DPS gatekeeping like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    By screaming,. abusive epithets, obscenities, public humiliation..oh and lets not forget the old and very timeworn excuse

    "You won the roll for the mount but xyz did more dps than you so he gets the mount"

    Dont tell me this doesnt happen , it does. I am immensely amused by the utter denial I see in these threads that parsers dont contribute to toxic and abusive behaviour.

    They do.



    Tell me, when you told Bob about his dps, did he ask you first? Or do you shove it in their faces? Did they ASK you for your feedback? Did they ASK you to discuss their dps with them?

    No, they didnt. But you poke your nose into it and do it anyway, and you dont CARE whether or not they want to hear it you will tell them anyway.

    You are not getting an official ingame parser. it is not happening. FULL STOP. All the whining and jumping up and down wont change a thing.

    Accept it. The answer is a FLAT NO. The end.



    "Post your dps numbers to be allowed into our group or else"

    No.
    You can scream about the inanimate object all you like, doesn't change the fact that one HUNDRED percent of the toxicity I've seen in this game has come from toxic casuals and their sneering, seething hatred for anyone daring to suggest they're anything less than perfect at the game.

    Whence comes this irrational rage about statistics and math. Where on the doll did the combat log insult your mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    "You won the roll for the mount but xyz did more dps than you so he gets the mount"

    Dont tell me this doesnt happen , it does. I am immensely amused by the utter denial I see in these threads that parsers dont contribute to toxic and abusive behaviour.

    They do.
    Controversial take:

    There is nothing wrong with this stance as long as it's said upfront. You join someone else's group, you go by their rules. Don't like it? Make your own group with your own rules.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]