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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus View Post
    I hear people use that "thick skin" argument and all I can think of is, "Why can't you be more sensitive to others feelings?"
    Because they aren't other people, no one has a right to be treated kindly. That's the sad truth.

    The minute you treat that luxury as a right and expect it is the minute you don't deserve it.

    Expect the worst, hope for the best, and keep things civil, but no one will be your friend.

    If something happens, be ready to put the threat down if you can or leave quickly if you can't.

    The most dangerous thing you are likely to face is another human, which won't change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    Because they aren't other people, no one has a right to be treated kindly. That's the sad truth.
    ...
    Maybe where you live
    * CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION - CONS

    ARTICLE I DECLARATION OF RIGHTS [SECTION 1 - SEC. 32] ( Article 1 adopted 1879. )

    SECTION 1. All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.
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    Americans being American

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Maybe where you live
    This has nothing to do with people respecting you or being kind to you unless you tell me the Californian constitution forces people to be kind to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    This has nothing to do with people respecting you or being kind to you unless you tell me the Californian constitution forces people to be kind to you?
    basically it guarantees Happiness to it's citizens... although it's impossible to fulfil, most government employees try to be kind to everyone (except cops), and generally people are use to acting with kindness before acting in other ways. Generally what I mean, Californians for the most part act friendly. Our constitution requires the Government to try and achieve our happiness, and government employees (besides cops) are usually very friendly. In fact most people west of the Mississippi tend towards friendly as a default. Just as a Reminder kind = friendly, and generally North Americans are friendlier than Europeans, and people in the Western States are friendlier than the Eastern States, and Southern States tend to be Friendlier than Northern ones.

    Just remember, in the US "Bless your heart" is a way to disagree with someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    basically it guarantees Happiness to it's citizens... although it's impossible to fulfil, most government employees try to be kind to everyone (except cops)
    What?
    . Our constitution requires the Government to try and achieve our happiness, and government employees (besides cops) are usually very friendly.
    what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    What?

    what?
    California Constitution:
    * CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION - CONS

    ARTICLE I DECLARATION OF RIGHTS [SECTION 1 - SEC. 32] ( Article 1 adopted 1879. )

    SECTION 1. All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    But why disdain for the police? The police make sure that laws are enforced, and that conflict is dealt with as well as can be. They may not prevent crimes, but they do their best to address them. Why the hate for police?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    basically it guarantees Happiness to it's citizens... although it's impossible to fulfil, most government employees try to be kind to everyone (except cops), and generally people are use to acting with kindness before acting in other ways. Generally what I mean, Californians for the most part act friendly. Our constitution requires the Government to try and achieve our Happiness, and government employees (besides cops) are usually very friendly. In fact most people west of the Mississippi tend towards friendly as a default. Just as a Reminder kind = friendly, and generally North Americans are friendlier than Europeans, and people in the Western States are friendlier than the Eastern States. Southern States tend to be Friendlier than Northern ones.

    Just remember, in the US, "Bless your heart" is a way to disagree with someone.
    Nowhere in the lines you shared does it say it guarantees Happiness to its citizens. It says all citizens have a right to try and obtain Happiness.
    You don't know most government employees. So you naturally assume people are innately good.
    People are fleeing the state en masse because of your problems caused by the so-called kindness and that road to hell appeared rather quickly.
    Are North Americans kinder? Is that why every time a so-called progressive runs for president, Europe is always an example of what's done right in terms of rights. Unfortunately, it's almost like that so-called kindness didn't do anything for you.
    Europe has the happiest countries on the planet, and we all have better living conditions, pay less tax, have better infrastructure, lower crime etc. But, unfortunately, you are not that kind, and no one respects the US enough to believe it.

    Remember in Europe, saying I have to disagree is a way to disagree with someone because we don't need to come up with passive-aggressive remarks to talk to another human. It's seen as rather sly, rude and a waste of everyone's time.

    Gods even the documents you show to show how kind you are stem from us. You forget where your culture and values originated, the founding fathers of the US must be rolling in their graves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    According to the rules, at https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...5382&kid=68216 ,


    To which the first example is

    And I understand that they punish for off-game behavior. as well, so treating people like garbage outside of the game is punishable.

    With all this being said, it almost seems redundant to advertise "LGBTQ+ friendly" in a game where you are required to tolerate it both on and off the game, seeing as how guilds that aren't friendly would be punished.

    Is it redundant, or is it warranted even with the rules being as explicit as they are about a zero tolerance (on and off game) about it?
    No, it is not.

    Nobody actually cares if you are LGBTQ etc etc.

    Its a video game, keep your personal/political/social issues in the real world where it belongs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    Nowhere in the lines you shared does it say it guarantees Happiness to its citizens. It says all citizens have a right to try and obtain Happiness.
    You don't know most government employees. So you naturally assume people are innately good.
    People are fleeing the state en masse because of your problems caused by the so-called kindness and that road to hell appeared rather quickly.
    Are North Americans kinder? Is that why every time a so-called progressive runs for president, Europe is always an example of what's done right in terms of rights. Unfortunately, it's almost like that so-called kindness didn't do anything for you.
    Europe has the happiest countries on the planet, and we all have better living conditions, pay less tax, have better infrastructure, lower crime etc. But, unfortunately, you are not that kind, and no one respects the US enough to believe it.

    Remember in Europe, saying I have to disagree is a way to disagree with someone because we don't need to come up with passive-aggressive remarks to talk to another human. It's seen as rather sly, rude and a waste of everyone's time.

    Gods even the documents you show to show how kind you are stem from us. You forget where your culture and values originated, the founding fathers of the US must be rolling in their graves.
    Don't take it too seriously, it's califorina. Even the US snickers behind their back, lol.
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