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  1. #71
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    Iyrnwaen's Avatar
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    Iyrnwaen Aispyrthota
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post
    Except you can just not use Life of the Dragon still do tons of damage (25k burst that btw a better single target Ogi+Namikiri) and receive 50% damage reduced, I'll just watch my caster getting his ass beat
    while the DRG is in the backline or maybe should I switch classes midgame? Even then you still get 25% damage reduction for nothing, literally doing damage off GCD
    bound to nothing but range for 10 seconds uptime, no brain actvity just mashing buttons.

    and btw we didn't even speak of the 8k Shield you get 4 free
    Yes, you can definitely choose to play the job wrong and deal substantially less damage for no reason.
    DRG has no CC and no ability to chase. If you're not maximizing your burst, you're a minor annoyance without your team doing the heavy lifting.
    DRG is inferior to NIN and RDM even when it's played correctly, but by all means, make it worse.
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  2. #72
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    Vitalic Oni
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnwaen View Post
    Yes, you can definitely choose to play the job wrong and deal substantially less damage for no reason.
    DRG has no CC and no ability to chase. If you're not maximizing your burst, you're a minor annoyance without your team doing the heavy lifting.
    DRG is inferior to NIN and RDM even when it's played correctly, but by all means, make it worse.
    This one I don't deny but compared to WHM, DRG in my opinion is thousand times worse. My point is you can play it "wrong" and still do 25k burst and receive
    50% damage reduce on top of that. If you play it correctly, you still have 25% + 8k shield. How often do you see DRG focused? Not that at all, because in combination
    with the other classes you just can't kill certain classes until a class with weaker defensives dies. It's a stupid design for a class like DRG that is all about damage. That's like
    imagine playing ADC in League and he can't die until someone else does.
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  3. #73
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    Chardut Mazzma
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post


    There you go
    Do people get mad if they have a bard on their team? I feel like I can contriibute to deciding who dies and when, but not a whole lot else.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinumstorm View Post
    Do people get mad if they have a bard on their team? I feel like I can contriibute to deciding who dies and when, but not a whole lot else.
    Let's put it that way if you have the BRD and the enemy got the RDM morale goes -1
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  5. #75
    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Grinning Serpent
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    Maduin
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Prrringles View Post
    It's their LB man. Beam with stun and huge dmg, that alone reks groups. AST is meh
    High skill players do not generally group up, at all. If they do, they it's when the WHM (or DRG, or whatever) doesn't have LB. Or they have a means in place to counteract that LB (such as Seraph Flight.)

    AST is *undeniably* the best healer right now, and it's not even close. Macrocosmos got buffed for some absurd reason and is frankly overpowered right now. You know how people bang on about how Misery did 12k damage in a ~5yd AOE on the target? Macrocosmos does 12k damage in a *20yd radius around the AST* and applies the famous Macro buff that lets AST one-click quit P3S mechanics. Or in this case throw a fat heal on someone that took a bunch of damage and then got their Guard up in time.

    In terms of damage output? Double Cast Gravity is 8k+8k damage and applies Heavy and then Bind. Stack Macrocosmos in there and it's *the same damage as WHM LB* on a 30 sec recharge cycle. Wah, WHM LB charges too fast? AST's doesn't *have* a charge time, they can let it rip whenever they feel like it and pay the time cost afterwards. Double cast Malefic is a quick 5k+5k burst cycle and even refunds half the charge timer of the DC charge spend to do it. Double cast Benefic is the best single target healing in the game by a huge margin and they can do it twice in a row if they really need to.

    And then AST has an LB that requires no targeting or positioning, just tap the button and congratulations your team wins this engagement if the enemy team is stupid enough to keep trying to have it. Sure, twice the charge time of WHM's, but WHM needs to land a huge money shot for their WHM to have a big impact against high skill players. AST just sits on theirs until they can use it in a place where the enemy team is forced to fight into it (typically a fight over a checkpoint.)

    AST is undeniably the best healer right now. I would not call them overpowered or even overtuned (though I think they should revert the Macrocosmos damage buff for sanity's sake), but they are very good. I prefer SCH because AST is a bit micro-heavy for my tastes and I'm way too lazy to keybind Enemy Party Member target functions to properly place Gravity casts, and because I hate the RNG with cards (Balance and Spire are pretty much always good, Ewer is... not, in most cases.) But I won't pretend that AST ain't the best right now.
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  6. #76
    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post
    Let's put it that way if you have the BRD and the enemy got the RDM morale goes -1
    BRD is really strong. It's not RDM strong but it's not like they're competing for the same slots anyway.
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  7. #77
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    Lymberry Kaldwin
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    Scholar Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Platinumstorm View Post
    Do people get mad if they have a bard on their team? I feel like I can contribute to deciding who dies and when, but not a whole lot else.
    My morale tier list. Being at the bottom doesn't mean bad though.

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    In case you are wondering why I have a different name, E and R are not very far.

  8. #78
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    Kapra Kyojin
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    SAM with its guaranteed 1 shot lb and smn with the massive auto turret that deals heavy damage upon use are 2 that really need to be nerfed into the ground
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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KapraGoatmog View Post
    SAM with its guaranteed 1 shot lb and smn with the massive auto turret that deals heavy damage upon use are 2 that really need to be nerfed into the ground
    SAM isn't a 1 shot LB if you don't attack them when the obvious Chiten buff is active. Or you can just CC chain them when they run at you trying to get you to hit them. It's pretty obvious when they're going to try to Odin you.

    SMN is completely fine. Megaflare is only 18k damage and Akh Morn a few seconds later for only 12k. That's not really much damage by LB standards, especially since Akh Morn is single target.
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    Bureda Ghodhand
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    Phoenix
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post


    There you go
    You really think RDM and NIN are on the same level? LMAO.
    RDM is literally god tier. I wish NIN could melee as well as a RDM or do ranged damage damage as well as a RDM.

    Also there's no way DNC is better than a Bard. Perhaps you used some of that glue yourself.
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