The difficulty curve in the game has... problems...

[IdowhatIwant]

I forced myself to join another prog at Harma with zero hope of getting any farther. Progged for about an hour before someone had to leave. I managed not to wipe us and get the mechanic right after like 5 tries on Harma. Actually cleared Overflow and the second Overflow easier than Harma. Saw enrage once near the end (~25%) before we disbanded. I died, like a lot, a lot more than everyone else it seemed like, and still am clearly the weakest link.

But, it may be, minutely possible that I can eventually clear it. Enrage once at 25% is a long ass way from a clear, but it might not be impossible. It's still really f'ing hard though and the game does absolutely nothign to prepare you for it. And I'd be willing to put a large wager that I just lucked into a unicorn group that felt sorry enough not to kick me bringing paper bag tier DPS.

I'll keep trying I guess. I will withold my judgement on the feasibility until I actually get a clear though. I think there is an above even chance I end up in the old folks home (ie - the perpetual "seen enrage a bunch" groups, but never get a clear).

It sadly doesn't look like you have any logs. I was going to offer some pointers but I don't know what I am working with. I did my savage stuff as Mch, and I like to think I do well as Mch.

Yeah 25% is pretty high for enrage. How ever I am pretty sure when I first saw enrage my group had it pretty high as well but that is what prog is you typically aren't going to clear. If you don't feel comfortable with the mechanics to potentially clear (able to ideally go through the fight with out dying or killing some one) you may want to practice more before that push to clear.

[Issaella]

It sadly doesn't look like you have any logs...

Because they are hidden and will remain so. I don't need my shameful bottomdweller grey parses posted for all to see. I didn't even know I had any (or even thought about it) until someone said something a while back and I had to scramble to figure out how to get rid of them. There is noting to see there but disappointment and humiliation.

[IdowhatIwant]

Because they are hidden and will remain so. I don't need my shameful bottomdweller grey parses posted for all to see. I didn't even know I had any (or even thought about it) until someone said something a while back and I had to scramble to figure out how to get rid of them. There is noting to see there but disappointment and humiliation.

lol wear them with pride they eventually get better. I cleared P2S with a dark who was low enough to not even get a score, it doesn't really matter in the end, and I really don't think people actively check people before allowing players in a party. If they do then they are just losers you don't want to play with anyways.

If you are able to access them though, copy and paste one into the xivanalysis website and it will give you a run down in what you may have done wrong, and what can be improved. It's a pretty cool tool gives you essentially goals to achieve.

Fair Warning: If your parses are as low as you are claiming, it may be a bit overwhelming to look through at first, but I promise it is a good tool for improvement.

Example: Drill, Bioblaster: 25 / 30 (83.33%), which essentially is there were 5 additional drills I could have gotten off through out the entire fight but I did not for what ever reason. This difference alone may have made this run go from the 80% to maybe 90% as 5 is actually a lot to miss as a bulk of your damage is drill.

You can also take some one who has a high parse, and throw it in to see how they open, or what sort of rotation they do, to learn from them as well. Usually when I want to mess around with another job I use this tool to figure out how to play it.

[Issaella]

lol wear them with pride they eventually get better.

You vastly overestimate my ability to translate "you know where you stopped casting in order to move because you can't mouse-turn and click a cooldown at the same time, don't do that." and "you know when you stopped casting in order to process information to not wipe everyone, don't do that either" into an actual increase in performance.

[IdowhatIwant]

You vastly overestimate my ability to translate "you know where you stopped casting in order to move because you can't mouse-turn and click a cooldown at the same time, don't do that." and "you know when you stopped casting in order to process information to not wipe everyone, don't do that either" into an actual increase in performance.

Wack a dummy and move around while doing it. MCH is the best for being mobile and maintaining up time. Do your rotation enough you won't have to think about it at all itll just be muscle memory. Also practice not clicking skills and try to adjust your keybinds where you can actively press all your skills with one hand and little movement. Good keybinds are very key, I can't really give you advice on that really mine many would consider bad but its comfortable for me. May want to look up some guides on keybinding and play around with it. It took me a couple hours to figure out how I wanted mine, and that is excluding practicing it afterwards and making adjustments.

For example I have my rotation as qwe, with my ogcds gause barrel and ricochet as 12, so I can easily press 12 after each step of my rotation, Drill air anchor and chainsaw I have as rty.

[Issaella]

Wack a dummy and move around while doing it. MCH is the best for being mobile and maintaining up time. Do your rotation enough you won't have to think about it at all itll just be muscle memory. Also practice not clicking skills and try to adjust your keybinds where you can actively press all your skills with one hand and little movement.

I've been trying for 15y and in that time managed to add only 4 more hotkey slots and even then I have a tendency to mis-tap hotkeys and/or not reset my fingers to movement keys properly regardless of practice. I am at my limit in terms of hotkeys, it's just not something I can improve in that dept. So it's click some of them or don't use them at all. FF14 has so many abilities (like old WoW) that there are are simply too many for me to hotkey everything I need so it's main abilities and short cooldowns, whereas longer cooldowns I click. If I get used to the timing on boss abilities I should be able to avoid that problem (I have in Unreal/Ex1&2). It also means I'm coming into this with a major impediment that most people don't have to deal with, that was one of my major reasons for not even trying.

I only have 1 job geared out at 590+ presently, SMN, I thought about MCH, but I can't play BRD or DNC with any kind of skill. Also, with how far MCH is behind every other DPS it felt like a huge handicap, if I could get SMN even close in terms of performance it would easily out-DPS MCH. SMN also leaves the door open to playing rezmage with the same gearset if I need/want to (I'm not as good at it, but I can play it ok). It would take me a couple weeks of grinding to get another job to 590+ and that is the bare minimum I'm willing to enter this in order to stack the deck in my favor as much as I possibly can.

[Inanegrain]

I've been trying for 15y and in that time managed to add only 4 more hotkey slots and even then I have a tendency to mis-tap hotkeys and/or not reset my fingers to movement keys properly regardless of practice. I am at my limit in terms of hotkeys, it's just not something I can improve in that dept. So it's click some of them or don't use them at all. FF14 has so many abilities (like old WoW) that there are are simply too many for me to hotkey everything I need so it's main abilities and short cooldowns, whereas longer cooldowns I click. If I get used to the timing on boss abilities I should be able to avoid that problem (I have in Unreal/Ex1&2). It also means I'm coming into this with a major impediment that most people don't have to deal with, that was one of my major reasons for not even trying.

I only have 1 job geared out at 590+ presently, SMN, I thought about MCH, but I can't play BRD or DNC with any kind of skill. Also, with how far MCH is behind every other DPS it felt like a huge handicap, if I could get SMN even close in terms of performance it would easily out-DPS MCH. SMN also leaves the door open to playing rezmage with the same gearset if I need/want to (I'm not as good at it, but I can play it ok). It would take me a couple weeks of grinding to get another job to 590+ and that is the bare minimum I'm willing to enter this in order to stack the deck in my favor as much as I possibly can.

The technical issue of "I'm fighting my controls", rebind them all to whatever you think is comfortable. Same issue people with other games on either KBM/Controller while people got used to it effectively such as MH, Apex Legends, etc.

Shift/CTRL/ALT modifiers, Q, E, R, 1-5/6, etc. Controllers? I have no suggestions, just that people are good on it.

[histoireancienne]

I only have 1 job geared out at 590+ presently, SMN, I thought about MCH, but I can't play BRD or DNC with any kind of skill. Also, with how far MCH is behind every other DPS it felt like a huge handicap, if I could get SMN even close in terms of performance it would easily out-DPS MCH. SMN also leaves the door open to playing rezmage with the same gearset if I need/want to (I'm not as good at it, but I can play it ok). It would take me a couple weeks of grinding to get another job to 590+ and that is the bare minimum I'm willing to enter this in order to stack the deck in my favor as much as I possibly can.

If you like MCH, play MCH. As my static told me when I was feeling bad going MCH this tier vs. DNC, "You may be hitting like a wet noodle, but you're OUR wet noodle, and we're not going for a week one clear, so it really doesn't matter." I was also told by multiple experience raiders - when I was wringing my hands about MCH damage before the tier dropped - that it was much more important for me to be on a job I was comfy & experienced with. We had P4S down in ... 5 weeks? Which isn't amazing, but also isn't bad. Damage checks were never really the issue & I certainly wasn't holding the group back by not playing DNC or BRD, and I was also contributing my fair share (we also just needed a physical ranged, period - I don't know about Aether's PF scene, but it does seem on Crystal that physranged is in "high demand," relatively speaking). If you're comfortable with the job, it's NOT a "huge handicap" unless you're in a top group going for a clear week one. (Yes, I do wish MCH got a little more love than a smattering of potency buffs, but here we are)

Have you tried using a controller, vs. kb/m? This game is very well optimized for it, esp. for classes like MCH and current SMN that don't have lots of buttons. I switched from PS4 to PC & still play on controller. The only class I really have "issues" with is AST, but I know plenty of people who raid on AST on controller & do more than fine.

And, as Packetdancer notes, hitting enrage at 25% is a group problem, not a YOU specifically problem. Seeing enrage, period, does mean you've seen the whole fight.

[Inanegrain]

Because they are hidden and will remain so. I don't need my shameful bottomdweller grey parses posted for all to see. I didn't even know I had any (or even thought about it) until someone said something a while back and I had to scramble to figure out how to get rid of them. There is noting to see there but disappointment and humiliation.

I started off the bottom, during my grind, I started to see it go from grey, to not grey by other people who logged me in random EX farming.