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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaramouche View Post
    It is still a fact.
    u don't understand what semantics are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    He is right there is indeed a higher demand for CT and many reasons it can pop if everyone in the group has completed the one time mandatory msq run and there are no “strippers”.
    - unlocking other raids is 100% optional. Many people don’t unlock them and you can’t blame them
    as it is how the game is currently designed;
    - there are many quests between the time one completes CT and the time it becomes possible to unlock the next tier and an even longer time before the other ones;
    - ftp players are limited to CT and (I think) optional HW raids;
    - even with 100% of the raids unlocked, some players may be levelling a different job and they are between lvl 50-59;
    - some quests require extra CT runs (i.e Bozja);
    - some weirdoes may queue CT just because;
    - sheer luck (or lack of).

    It’s not hard to understand as all the above is cumulative on CT demand. In the end, CT is just 15 mins and the roulette is optional. You can queue for something else after. That’s what I do if I want to run a raid.
    all of this is correct but is missing the spirit of what a roulette is. what is the purpose of a roulette that includes various content if you only see 1/4 of the total content pool? the spirit of the issue is, "why do we only get crystal tower when we're queuing for roulettes?" if there is no answer other than, "people queue for CT more often" there is an issue that must be addressed. otherwise, remove alliance raid roulette as it serves no purpose at all.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    CT was never MSQ until 5.x lol.
    It's not part of the main story, only just a road block in the 5.x series which is very far, but you are going to pass it by it anyway, free trial players do go into it more often than not.
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    Also since apparently some people want to put CT into main scenario roulette, it is actually good to remind some people that it is not msq.

    And even if it was they will never put it in the main scenario roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    It's not part of the main story, only just a road block in the 5.x series which is very far, but you are going to pass it by it anyway, free trial players do go into it more often than not.
    They just didn't change the icons for the quest... Its MSQ lol...

    If the game doesn't let you progress the story without doing it, it is part of the story.

    Its its required much earlier now, not in 5.x
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    Quote Originally Posted by game_enjoyer View Post
    u don't understand what semantics are
    I just don't care about your buzzy word it is not msq and never was. Technole is right.
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    I did the ARR MSQ last year and I most certainly had to do Crystal Tower raid series before I could progress to 2.55. However the quest chain had the blue optional quest mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They just didn't change the icons for the quest... Its MSQ lol...

    If the game doesn't let you progress the story without doing it, it is part of the story.

    Its its required much earlier now, not in 5.x
    Nor do they let you progress without killing ifrit/garuda/titan and they aren't part of msq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaramouche View Post
    Nor do they let you progress without killing ifrit/garuda/titan and they aren't part of msq.
    Its almost like that change was also done later and they just never updated the quest markers..

    Wow, such thought!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Then...uh...que for a specific raid series? Not that hard. Oh but you want the sweet sweet rewards and exp from the roulette? Well if you want the rewards then you have to suffer, roulette is meant to make old content playable and since CT is the first raid newbies and people who need it for ShB will come across it's just normal that there is a higher demand for CT runs.
    To be fair CT really should be part of the MSQ roulette. The reason why it pops so much in the alliance roulette is because;

    1.) Its mandatory to progress the MSQ unlike the later raids so its already going to pop more often.

    2.) Its easy to guarantee that one to pop because players remove all their gear for fast and easy exp.

    Place CT into the MSQ roulette would fix both problems.
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