Learn your history lesson: Witch Hunts DO cause innocents to be banned

[Wilford111]

I think it should be mentioned that just because there was a witch hunt doesn't mean SE should stop upholding their tos just for specific cases like that. That is the definition of selective enforcement.

SE is not "siding" with 5chan or anyone, they are merely upholding their rules they have set since forever ago.

If someone is publicly broadcasting their add-ons, feel free to report them. Or don't. But don't go condemning SE for enforcing their tos that Yoshi-P specifically went out of his way to mention that yes, it still exists.

[VirusOnline]

this is funny. I hate addons a lot, and feel they are cheating. I am in no way Japanese.

its not a culture clash at all.. WoW made it virtually mandatory to run mods because it was about the only way to get any QoL improvements to play the game. period. the western player base is not more "liberal" its that they are used to using them without repercussions. in fact, many western players think theirs is the ONLY way a game should be run. They could care less about any other part of the world. I am sure you have been around forums long enough to realize this.

This is a Japanese game, run by a Japanese company. its theirs, end of story. It will typically be run under a Japanese culture. the clash is basically... westerners, especially in the US, fail to realize this.

Personally, I like their stance on addons. I would love it if they actually did more about the bots and the gil buyers but time will tell. western players dont need "slack", they need a dose of reality and the idea that the world does not revolve around them.

same could be said for jp

it doesn't matter that this game is japanese - it is considered a global game making earnings globally in a gaming industry which is ... global. And consdering eu and na combined outnumber jp (which these forums love to glorify), running a game based on culture gets you where we are now.

[Inanegrain]

You do know that one of the main cheat programs is CB, and that runs through ACT specifically, right? Aren't you contradicting yourself here?

How do you tell people ACT is ok but CB that runs through ACT is not? How do you seperate these things?

I'm dying to know.

ACT = Combat Log translated to be easily viewed

Cactbot = Minimal human error callout that reads timeline and/or combat log actively for set action

I'm guessing what cactbot does, am unsure what it does besides being able to call out in real time for missed positionals, raid buffs and invulns. Or have it yell at you similar to the halone thing.

I have no clue how it's setup, if you meant can it be separated, you have to go out of your way to setup cactbot.
So... in that sense, it's separated, otherwise, it'll obviously be tied to ACT as it read logs.

[VirusOnline]

ACT = Combat Log translated to be easily viewed

Cactbot = Minimal human error callout that reads timeline and/or combat log actively for set action

I'm guessing what cactbot does, am unsure what it does besides being able to call out in real time for missed positionals, raid buffs and invulns. Or have it yell at you similar to the halone thing.

I have no clue how it's setup, if you meant can it be separated, you have to go out of your way to setup cactbot.
So... in that sense, it's separated, otherwise, it'll obviously be tied to ACT as it read logs.

Boss fights are almost entirely scripted which is why cactbot is honestly not a big deal to me.
People have written up an entire timeline of mechanics to the very second that it happens.
Cactbot is just a realtime version of that.

If I had to guess once the boss is engaged, cactbot simply begins a countdown to the next mechanic which happens the exact same time on each pull because all the boss fights are scripted. *but* cactbot does cheat imo at some parts - it can record RNG mechanics.

look at a timeline or to run cactbot ? (known data)
ook at combat log or to run act ? (known data)
insta designate/lay markers during a 20minute ultimate fight where there are no checkpoints ? (dynamic data that imo crosses into cheating as the devs did not intend players to be able to do this and addressed it properly)


there is a line between cheating and QoL and SE needs to set it straight rather than these dumbh sternly written LLs

[gotaname1]

I would agree that doxxing is a pretty shitty thing to do, not to mention illegal.

Its legal in japan.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RoA5QEm8fc&t=156s

[SenorPatty]

Wait are you literally encouraging people to cheat but hide it, rather than not cheat at all?

I put a gun to everyone's head that actively use mods and told them to stfu about using mods. They all complied and there was great rejoicing and even a standing ovation. I was given keys to the city and YoshiP personally thanked me for ending the fiasco and even went as far as allowing me to name my future firstborn after him.

...and then I woke up.


Sorry for the snark but the usage of the word "literally" correct or not causes me to have a verbal seizure. Literally.

[MaikoRaines]

Its legal in japan.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RoA5QEm8fc&t=156s

We aren't in Japan? And regardless of the legalities it's immorally reprehensible.

[Inanegrain]

We aren't in Japan? And regardless of the legalities it's immorally reprehensible.

They meant the victim, who are in japan. Only thing I know for sure was that the mob started before raiding was involved. Yes it's bad.

[Havenchild]

ACT = Combat Log translated to be easily viewed

Cactbot = Minimal human error callout that reads timeline and/or combat log actively for set action

I'm guessing what cactbot does, am unsure what it does besides being able to call out in real time for missed positionals, raid buffs and invulns. Or have it yell at you similar to the halone thing.

I have no clue how it's setup, if you meant can it be separated, you have to go out of your way to setup cactbot.
So... in that sense, it's separated, otherwise, it'll obviously be tied to ACT as it read logs.

The point being, is it's not just a parser you would be approving. It also includes all add-ons (from within) ACT that you can get.
CB can announce how to handle mechanics before you even see them on the screen for example, most prevalent is UCOB handling Nael Mechanics or UWU handling Titan Gaols.
There's quick setup guides on youtube. So I'm just saying, if you say yes to ACT, you are equally saying yes to CB because CB NEEDS ACT to even work and CB is largely considered one of the main cheating tools.
Unless for some reason you believe that we should trust the playerbase to not take advantage of ACT in it's fullest once if it is "approved".

[Skiros]

You’re wasting your time with these types of people. They think themselves virtuous all while not being able to see the forest from the trees.

Some of them probably are but just want to virtue signal.