Learn your history lesson: Witch Hunts DO cause innocents to be banned

[Kes13a]

Japanese players hate mods/addons in general, like really really much. The only addon that seems to be widespread tolerated under the JP playerbase are shader tools.

So i feel like this whole mess has come down now to a kind of cultural clash between JP and the western world which are much more liberal about the use of third party tools. Question is if SE sticks with their JP playerbase even tho it is by now significantly smaller than the NA/EU playerbase or if they cut western players finally some slack.

this is funny. I hate addons a lot, and feel they are cheating. I am in no way Japanese.

its not a culture clash at all.. WoW made it virtually mandatory to run mods because it was about the only way to get any QoL improvements to play the game. period. the western player base is not more "liberal" its that they are used to using them without repercussions. in fact, many western players think theirs is the ONLY way a game should be run. They could care less about any other part of the world. I am sure you have been around forums long enough to realize this.

This is a Japanese game, run by a Japanese company. its theirs, end of story. It will typically be run under a Japanese culture. the clash is basically... westerners, especially in the US, fail to realize this.

Personally, I like their stance on addons. I would love it if they actually did more about the bots and the gil buyers but time will tell. western players dont need "slack", they need a dose of reality and the idea that the world does not revolve around them.

[Ranaku]

this is funny. I hate addons a lot, and feel they are cheating. I am in no way Japanese.

its not a culture clash at all.. WoW made it virtually mandatory to run mods because it was about the only way to get any QoL improvements to play the game. period. the western player base is not more "liberal" its that they are used to using them without repercussions. in fact, many western players think theirs is the ONLY way a game should be run. They could care less about any other part of the world. I am sure you have been around forums long enough to realize this.

This is a Japanese game, run by a Japanese company. its theirs, end of story. It will typically be run under a Japanese culture. the clash is basically... westerners, especially in the US, fail to realize this.

Personally, I like their stance on addons. I would love it if they actually did more about the bots and the gil buyers but time will tell. western players dont need "slack", they need a dose of reality and the idea that the world does not revolve around them.

That's a fallacy, i mean yes it is a japanese game. Japanese devs. Japanese company. But they want to make money on the western market and their shareholders are definitely not all japanese. As i said, by now the western audience is way bigger than the japanese one, which means they either have to adapt or have to bite into the lemon and burn their western market to the ground. It's a mutual relationship between consumer and provider and it has to be beneficial for both sides, if one side decides to disrespect the other too much (yes that means also cheaters cheating with plugins and all that) then the other side needs to adapt, goes both ways.

And yes there are also western players hating mods/plugins/addons and whatnot. And there are probably japanese players being alright with said tools. But you have to take into account that not all players from japanese datacenters are actually japanese but from all over asia and oceania. It is actually illegal, like 5 years jailtime illegal, to modify games/consoles in japan. I think that plays also a huge role in how the japanese playerbase sees modding in general.

Ofc addons etc. that allow players to basically cheat their way through the game should be never allowed, in my opinion. But at this point, purging every community that relies on certain addons, would damage the games image beyond repair which would cause also aftereffects for players who never touched an addon in their life. Raiders, guidemakers, roleplayers, housing maniacs and gposers are a huge gigantic influence on how the game is perceived online due to them flooding social media with basically free advertisement for the game. If SE decides to come down hard on these people i fear at the end it will hurt everyone, since we know who buys the most stuff from the cashshop, if they burn that bridge then other players will also face less content and less development and SE a huge blow to their stock which will cause shareholders to go nuts.

[VirusOnline]

this is funny. I hate addons a lot, and feel they are cheating. I am in no way Japanese.

its not a culture clash at all.. WoW made it virtually mandatory to run mods because it was about the only way to get any QoL improvements to play the game. period. the western player base is not more "liberal" its that they are used to using them without repercussions. in fact, many western players think theirs is the ONLY way a game should be run. They could care less about any other part of the world. I am sure you have been around forums long enough to realize this.

This is a Japanese game, run by a Japanese company. its theirs, end of story. It will typically be run under a Japanese culture. the clash is basically... westerners, especially in the US, fail to realize this.

Personally, I like their stance on addons. I would love it if they actually did more about the bots and the gil buyers but time will tell. western players dont need "slack", they need a dose of reality and the idea that the world does not revolve around them.

same could be said for jp

it doesn't matter that this game is japanese - it is considered a global game making earnings globally in a gaming industry which is ... global. And consdering eu and na combined outnumber jp (which these forums love to glorify), running a game based on culture gets you where we are now.

[Shurrikhan]

WoW made it virtually mandatory to run mods because it was about the only way to get any QoL improvements to play the game. period.

As compared to XIV, where we've received, what, 4 minor UI QoL improvements in the last decade?

Oh wait, WoW players even using the default UI received more than that, too, in their last 10 years. Hrmm.

the western player base is not more "liberal" its that they are used to using them without repercussions. in fact, many western players think theirs is the ONLY way a game should be run.

So we've got a group A who believes that the playerbase shouldn't be actively prevented from making the game more polished for themselves and a group B who believe that the playerbase should be actively prevented from making the game more polished for themselves?

...Which of those, pray tell, sounds the more demanding/narrow/intolerant?

[HisShadowX]

All Add-Ons need to be banned thank the E-RP and Mechanics Nazi's/Hardcore Minority for this situation

[Kaurhz]

All Add-Ons need to be banned thank the E-RP and Mechanics Nazi's/Hardcore Minority for this situation

At this point, you have some strange fascination and fixation on the hardcore minority facet/illusion...

[Bunnycake]

All Add-Ons need to be banned thank the E-RP and Mechanics Nazi's/Hardcore Minority for this situation

ERP is an add-on?

[gotaname1]

ERP is an add-on?

you have to admit, the addons do enrich the erp experience....

[Bunnycake]

you have to admit, the addons do enrich the erp experience....

If I'm not mistaken I think there is an plug-in solely for rp/erp purposes for sentences lol..